• FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz
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    I honestly don’t understand why they don’t just label them “masculine” or “feminine”, and they can just add “androgynous” if they want a non-binary option. Is there an element of this that is offensive that I’m missing?

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      For a lot of people the sex is way more important than the way it is presented. I’m attracted to feminine women and masculine women but I am not attracted to men of any kind. And you can present as androgenous, but if you have lady parts I’m still hot for it.

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          Here’s the thing… Yes it is. Its explicitly the entire point it’s a problem.

          If you think otherwise then you fundamentally don’t understand the problem that’s happening.

          Your basically ignoring the forest for the tree.

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        Wow you’re like fully unflinchingly sex attracted. It’s kind of magical to observe.

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            Its not, it’s the most dominant form of attraction.

            Your just in Lemmy where like 70% of the user base is lgbtq, furry or a shut in that has little to no real world experience outside of their bubble or the queer community.

            Its wild how frequently I see people claim to be amazed at what is frequently the most common cold ass takes on topics.

            The younger generation of the queer community has an almost overwhelming fixation with sexuality and gender identity well beyond what is normal.

            Its actually a fun case if you ever have a chance to talk to a few different elders in the community who grew up though the 60s-80s.

            Its not a new topic in the community by any means but it has caused a wild echo chamber effect over the last 15 years thanks to social media, a larger community connection, and increased representation and freedom.

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            To be attracted to someone just based on hidden sexual characteristics? I’m not knocking it, but I won’t pretend I understand it either

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              Eh. It’s less that’s the only factor, and more that the range from girly to butch has little impact on if someone is attractive. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                But if they have a hidden dick they somehow know? I stand by it’s weird.

                I could show them many girls that are gorgeous but they’re ladyboys. Based on their logic they would be attracted and the penis shouldn’t matter but then they say sex matters so how do they know that person has a hidden dick?

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                  I mean, if someone is attractive, then they are attractive? I don’t just want to bang every attractive girl out there!

                  Maybe it’s different for people who go for flings, but I like to be friends with someone before anything goes to the bedroom - specifically friends enough that bedroom chat and what we’re both looking for isn’t an awkward topic.

                  If it turns out they have a dick, then I’ve still got a good friend? IDK.

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                    To get to the bedroom means sexual attraction though? Does anyone get to the bedroom without the intention to fuck?

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      I think a lot of game developers just don’t want to deal with the drama that will inevitably happen if they give more than two options.

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      People who are never not upset are upset when designers don’t title body types as masculine or feminine and instead use a single character like “A” or “B”.

      Like from a design standpoint if you have plans to introduce more body types then lettering them makes a lot of sense but I imagine that’s also one of the first things to get cut from a budget because it multiplies the amount of QA that’s going to happen.

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        Okay, that makes sense. I just didn’t know if it was that way to be sensitive of trans people or something.

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          There are insane people that think michelle obama is trans. I think its more the anti-trans people are prone to just make insane assumptions and assertions.

          Lots of games have little unfinished bits. Like look at Metal Gear Solid 5: full ass AAA style game and the entire ending of the game is just missing. I think the obvious explanation is somebody intended to have more body types and just never got around to it or it got deprioritized hard by the budgeting folks.

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        So what? The main problem today is that people are offended by anything. Its ridiculous.

        The problem is not the words, it’s the people.

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          I can see why game developers stay out of it though. Regardless of what their personal opinions on matter may be is it really worth dealing with a bunch of angry incels, especially if it’s a big studio they don’t want that kind of nonsense so they don’t do it.

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            The funny part is the a/b is them actually explicitly jumping straight into it

            Staying out of it would be to have ignored the problem ENTIRELY and kept using the standard method that had been used for decades in gaming and centuries in writing.

            Doing nothing and ignoring a problem is taking no stance beyond saying you won’t participate.

            Changing in anyway is taking a stance. That’s how that works lol

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            Yeah if it’s just some job where you turn the handle to put out Derivative Manshoot with Nominal Twist 2 + monetization then I can understand not feeling like putting any of your soul into it because wtf is your game even saying? Like from an artistic perspective.

            Oh wait, scrolling up, I guess this is more about RPGs. Which idk, I feel like you can get away with anything in a RPG character creator.

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      I don’t think it’s offensive by any means, but I think it would be better as a society to get away from labeling things as masculine and feminine in a way that refers back to a traditional gender binary and assumptions. The A/B system serves that, though it fumbles when your character’s pronouns are also determined by this choice.

      Personally I think they ought to make two base bodies (small and large) and then add boobs as a toggle for both. And none of this business with separate hair and face options either.

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        Just call it what it is.

        Testosterone based body fat distribution and estrogen based body fat distribution.

        Then no one can be angry! After all that’s basically what your picking the standardized body shape caused by fat distribution primarily dictated by the primary sex hormone in the body.

        No one can get upset if you just label everything clinically. At least not with out being a dipshit about it.

        Also free the god damn nip. ):<