Over the last decade, gun murders have jumped by nearly 90 percent in Canada. This increase is fuelled by a never-ending stream of illegal weapons acquired a...
This is bullshit astroturfing from the Liberal government trying to twist gun crime statistics to fit their narrative in preparation for the Supreme Court case regarding their use of the Order-in-Council power to ban firearms.
They’ve decided to generously (read: absurdly) redefine what it means for a gun to be involved in crime.
If a lawfully owned firearm is recovered from a crime scene, even if that firearm was sitting in a safe unrelated to the crime, it’s still counted in their new interpretation of the existing statistics.
Most gun crime in Canada that meets the sensible and reasonable definition is committed with illegally smuggled firearms, no matter what special interest groups like PolySeSouvient would happily lie to get you to believe.
toquote someone (u/panjaab) from reddit (r/onguardforthee):
This article is a prime example of the diminished journalistic integrity within this country and here are the following reasons as to why. Air rifles/pellet guns, BB guns, and other immitation rifles are also considered firearms under canadian law. How many immitation rifles are considered in this quota? No one knows and that fact was conveniently left out.
Nothing is said about how many were stollen and how many were used by licensed PAL holders during a crime. All that is said, is that they were traced back to canadian origin, but this is a broad term.
If a police officer witnesses a firearm at a crime scene, they will attempt to trace the firearm using the serial number, even if the firearm was not used in the crime itself. This also counts towards traces. If a firearm that was actually used in a crime, does not have a serial number, it will not count towards the trace quota.
What is a “crime gun”. Is it a firearm used in a murder, a theft, firearms that were improperly stored, or firearms which were stored in a safe and confiscated due to the death of the PAL holder?
What is a crime gun? Is it a gun that was used in a murder, robbery, improperly stored, or confiscated from a household where the PAL holder died?
They excluded Ontario and Quebec from the data. 2 provinces with close proximity to smuggling networks.
TLDR: article is worded to mislead people and is likely an attempt to use a falsely trumped up wedge issue to divide voters. Who is paying for these articles?
Andif I can say something, this is a likely a political stunt done very close to a Supreme Court hearing on the gun grabs in Canada that haven't yielded any results.
Also the exclusion of Ontario and Quebec is HUGE. These are the more populous provenances in addition to them being closest to firearm smuggling rings.
The methodology of the article (and many others like it) is highly questionable and is intensely flawed. So no it is not ‘I do not like it therefore it is wrong.’ I will quote a previous comment I made (and there have been tons of others since pointing out more flaws in it, but I can’t be arsed to look them up now).
toquote someone (u/panjaab) from reddit (r/onguardforthee):
This article is a prime example of the diminished journalistic integrity within this country and here are the following reasons as to why. Air rifles/pellet guns, BB guns, and other immitation rifles are also considered firearms under canadian law. How many immitation rifles are considered in this quota? No one knows and that fact was conveniently left out.
Nothing is said about how many were stollen and how many were used by licensed PAL holders during a crime. All that is said, is that they were traced back to canadian origin, but this is a broad term.
If a police officer witnesses a firearm at a crime scene, they will attempt to trace the firearm using the serial number, even if the firearm was not used in the crime itself. This also counts towards traces. If a firearm that was actually used in a crime, does not have a serial number, it will not count towards the trace quota.
What is a “crime gun”. Is it a firearm used in a murder, a theft, firearms that were improperly stored, or firearms which were stored in a safe and confiscated due to the death of the PAL holder?
What is a crime gun? Is it a gun that was used in a murder, robbery, improperly stored, or confiscated from a household where the PAL holder died?
They excluded Ontario and Quebec from the data. 2 provinces with close proximity to smuggling networks.
TLDR: article is worded to mislead people and is likely an attempt to use a falsely trumped up wedge issue to divide voters. Who is paying for these articles?
Andif I can say something, this is a likely a political stunt done very close to a Supreme Court hearing on the gun grabs in Canada that haven't yielded any results.
Also the exclusion of Ontario and Quebec is HUGE. These are the more populous provenances in addition to them being closest to firearm smuggling rings.
This is bullshit astroturfing from the Liberal government trying to twist gun crime statistics to fit their narrative in preparation for the Supreme Court case regarding their use of the Order-in-Council power to ban firearms.
They’ve decided to generously (read: absurdly) redefine what it means for a gun to be involved in crime.
If a lawfully owned firearm is recovered from a crime scene, even if that firearm was sitting in a safe unrelated to the crime, it’s still counted in their new interpretation of the existing statistics.
Most gun crime in Canada that meets the sensible and reasonable definition is committed with illegally smuggled firearms, no matter what special interest groups like PolySeSouvient would happily lie to get you to believe.
To quote a previous post of mine:
to quote someone (u/panjaab) from reddit (r/onguardforthee):This article is a prime example of the diminished journalistic integrity within this country and here are the following reasons as to why. Air rifles/pellet guns, BB guns, and other immitation rifles are also considered firearms under canadian law. How many immitation rifles are considered in this quota? No one knows and that fact was conveniently left out. Nothing is said about how many were stollen and how many were used by licensed PAL holders during a crime. All that is said, is that they were traced back to canadian origin, but this is a broad term. If a police officer witnesses a firearm at a crime scene, they will attempt to trace the firearm using the serial number, even if the firearm was not used in the crime itself. This also counts towards traces. If a firearm that was actually used in a crime, does not have a serial number, it will not count towards the trace quota. What is a “crime gun”. Is it a firearm used in a murder, a theft, firearms that were improperly stored, or firearms which were stored in a safe and confiscated due to the death of the PAL holder? What is a crime gun? Is it a gun that was used in a murder, robbery, improperly stored, or confiscated from a household where the PAL holder died? They excluded Ontario and Quebec from the data. 2 provinces with close proximity to smuggling networks. TLDR: article is worded to mislead people and is likely an attempt to use a falsely trumped up wedge issue to divide voters. Who is paying for these articles?
And if I can say something, this is a likely a political stunt done very close to a Supreme Court hearing on the gun grabs in Canada that haven't yielded any results. Also the exclusion of Ontario and Quebec is HUGE. These are the more populous provenances in addition to them being closest to firearm smuggling rings.“I don’t like it so it’s bullshit.”
The methodology of the article (and many others like it) is highly questionable and is intensely flawed. So no it is not ‘I do not like it therefore it is wrong.’ I will quote a previous comment I made (and there have been tons of others since pointing out more flaws in it, but I can’t be arsed to look them up now).
to quote someone (u/panjaab) from reddit (r/onguardforthee):This article is a prime example of the diminished journalistic integrity within this country and here are the following reasons as to why. Air rifles/pellet guns, BB guns, and other immitation rifles are also considered firearms under canadian law. How many immitation rifles are considered in this quota? No one knows and that fact was conveniently left out. Nothing is said about how many were stollen and how many were used by licensed PAL holders during a crime. All that is said, is that they were traced back to canadian origin, but this is a broad term. If a police officer witnesses a firearm at a crime scene, they will attempt to trace the firearm using the serial number, even if the firearm was not used in the crime itself. This also counts towards traces. If a firearm that was actually used in a crime, does not have a serial number, it will not count towards the trace quota. What is a “crime gun”. Is it a firearm used in a murder, a theft, firearms that were improperly stored, or firearms which were stored in a safe and confiscated due to the death of the PAL holder? What is a crime gun? Is it a gun that was used in a murder, robbery, improperly stored, or confiscated from a household where the PAL holder died? They excluded Ontario and Quebec from the data. 2 provinces with close proximity to smuggling networks. TLDR: article is worded to mislead people and is likely an attempt to use a falsely trumped up wedge issue to divide voters. Who is paying for these articles?
And if I can say something, this is a likely a political stunt done very close to a Supreme Court hearing on the gun grabs in Canada that haven't yielded any results. Also the exclusion of Ontario and Quebec is HUGE. These are the more populous provenances in addition to them being closest to firearm smuggling rings.It’s factually untrue, which is what makes it bullshit.
https://torontosun.com/news/national/zero-evidence-available-federal-gun-grab
Yes, I know it’s the Toronto Sun, but there are multiple sources for this out there.
Many police services came out to contest this “buyback” saying it would do nothing to help, and that the money should be spent on border enforcement.
How many x-ray scanners could we have installed at the border for $750 million?