• Shanmugha@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Granting someone human rights IS NOT tolerance

    It IS bullshit. No one ever is born with the notion of human rights and all the crap, but some creatures are born human nonetheless. Which is why

    And it’s not high road shit

    It actually is. I can agree not to kill someone unless they have killed or caused comparable harm, but not after. Once someone has breached social contract of decent treatment of others - they are not protected by it in my eyes anymore. Yes, it makes me capable of terrible things. No, I am not giving up that capability just for an idea that “I am good and civilized, unlike others”

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      9 hours ago

      No one ever is born with the notion of human rights and all the crap, but some creatures are born human nonetheless.

      Nobody is born racist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, and fascist either.

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      No one ever is born with the notion of human rights and all the crap

      Maybe not in your country, but here in Germany people are in fact born with human rights, including notably the right to live.

      Which, funnily, both the human rights declaration and the German constitution where written right after the nazi reign, by people who knew better than you and me what fashism can do.

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        12 hours ago

        You did not get what I said, but I am willing to help you this time:

        know of people who happen to be raised outside of society, e.g. in jungles? Can’t talk to them about rights and stuff, but human they are. Also, you and me on our day 1 on this planet: did any of us open our eyes and think “hey, I have rights” ?

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        Are you seriously suggesting that merely pointing to someone and going this guy’s a Nazi would immediately result in a beating? Come on that’s an intellectually dishonest arguement and you know it, that is absolutely not happening no one is doing that.

        What’s happening is the Nazis are ousting themselves. They provide their own evidence. They film themselves doing this stuff, rioting, setting fire to buildings, weaving misspelt banners around. They are pointing the finger at themselves.

        No one attacks people without evidence. Look at Trump, every time Mr tiny hands doesn’t like somebody he accuses them of being a fascist, without knowing what the word means. But it’s utterly irrelevant because no one believes him.

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        This argument just destroyed all of the plans of civilized man. WE ARE RUINED! at any moment we could be deceived! Let’s all lie down in the dirt and cry until we die.

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        How so? It’s not like we’re being manipulated into thinking people that aren’t nazis are. We’re watching them openly do nazi shit, we’re watching seig heils at the inauguration, we’re seeing literally nazi playbook shit, again all out in the open. Nobody is telling us this is nazi shit, we’re just seeing it for what it is. How can that be used nefariously? There’s no fox news equivalent manipulating the masses of the left, we’re just informed enough to see a spade for a fuckin spade. So tell me exactly how that can make me susceptible to do inhumane things based on false information. Be specific.

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        13 hours ago

        Yes, and unless I am inhumane myself that will go on to hunt haunt me long after the fact. This knife cuts both ways