Cripes…No Democrats, it’s not fighting Texas, it’s fighting against every damn red state.
Speak to shit realistically for the love of democracy.
Dems discovering ~10 years too late that “they go low, we go high” is a failed strategy.
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Y’all really need to get your head around the fact that you’ve been in a civil war for 6 months.
Denial isn’t a river in Egypt, your window for preventing ethnic cleansing and political pogroms is rapidly closing
We’re already in a cold civil war. Best we start acknowledging that and prepare accordingly.
It will have to be a very temporary thing until the democrats have a big enough majority to permanently completely restructure the way elections are done.
And why the fuck would those greedy, corrupt bastards do that when they have the majority to do anything they want? Why would they let their competition compete?
Sure, this is better than republicans being in permanent control, but it’s still the end of democracy in USA, and the ones in power have 0 incentive to bring back democracy as long as the american public aren’t willing to shoot their oppressors to defend or bring back democracy.
I hate it that it’s come to this level of lunacy
Come back to this level of lunacy.
The US has been here before.
Actually, a few times:
- Prior to the seven years war, the governor of Virginia was so openly corrupt the other colonies refused to official business with the colony, as he would just assign the contracts to his firms and run away with any money.
After the seven years war, leading up to the US revolution, things were very heated. Mostly from: 2a. Rich colonials defrauding British banks via loan fraud. 2b. Rich people then using said funds to buy up the available land, driving prices out of reqch of the regular colonials. 2c. Rich colonials got really pissy that the stamp act was going to prevent them from executing loan fraud. 2d. Rich colonialists astroturfing imaginary support for motiona and even faking riots to make it look like they had popular support. (Note that this was so faked that English speaking Canada became a thing out of this.) 3. The only land they would give to the poor people was in the strictly off limits Ohio Valley as that land was seen as native land in tha ks for them winning the war in North America for England. Neither the natives or the crown soldiers stood for this, but it was paid for by the rich colonials en mass, so was functionally unstoppable.
About 50 to 100 years later: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason–Dixon_line the Mason-Dixie line became a thing and the two sides fought to gerrymander support for slavery/freedom. Which ended causing the US civil war.
I mean… It definitely has not but ok
Actually, a few times:
- Prior to the seven years war, the governor of Virginia was so openly corrupt the other colonies refused to official business with the colony, as he would just assign the contracts to his firms and run away with any money.
After the seven years war, leading up to the US revolution, things were very heated. Mostly from: 2a. Rich colonials defrauding British banks via loan fraud. 2b. Rich people then using said funds to buy up the available land, driving prices out of reqch of the regular colonials. 2c. Rich colonials got really pissy that the stamp act was going to prevent them from executing loan fraud. 2d. Rich colonialists astroturfing imaginary support for motiona and even faking riots to make it look like they had popular support. (Note that this was so faked that English speaking Canada became a thing out of this.) 3. The only land they would give to the poor people was in the strictly off limits Ohio Valley as that land was seen as native land in tha ks for them winning the war in North America for England. Neither the natives or the crown soldiers stood for this, but it was paid for by the rich colonials en mass, so was functionally unstoppable.
About 50 to 100 years later: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason–Dixon_line the Mason-Dixie line became a thing and the two sides fought to gerrymander support for slavery/freedom. Which ended causing the US civil war.
History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
Men rarely change in any meaningful way, through the patterns of human actions we recreate scenarios over and over again.
Im glad their fighting but it’s no surprise what they finally chose to fight for is to further entrench their own power. If they continue to simply pass all the fascist apointments and vote for cloture so no one in their own party can even filibuster it’s not gonna matter how many dems there are and republicans will once again get their way from the minority as they have done before.
When they go low, make them suck your dick.
Yes please.
Dems need to grow spines and stop being pussies. Fight fire with fire.
Yeah they have already talked a few other states. I still prefered the deadmans swtich option though where its all passed and setup so that the new map becomes the map the moment any other state changes their map.
Cripes…No Democrats, it’s not fighting Texas, it’s fighting against every damn red state.
Speak to shit realistically for the love of democracy.
From Missouri: THANK YOU!
They need to get their timing right so that the red states can’t sneak in even more redistricting.
“don’t fix the system! Just make sure it’s us abusing it!”
Both stop or neither stop.
Just one side don’t it is a no.
Tried fixing it. Didn’t work. If we want to avoid a complete fascist takeover we have to use every tool available to us. If they get salty and ban it-- good! That’s how it should be anyways.
They tried to fix it, Republicans voted against it
Dems have been doing this for more than half a century. They don’t have a lot more water they can squeeze out of that stone. But continue ranting, you might motivate more red states to follow suit.
I don’t like either of our parties but man Dems seem super dumb when it comes to their strategies right now.
everyone’s been doing it since the idea came around because it’s not illegal, and it’s not illegal because the people making the laws are the people benefitting from the practice. it’s true of democrats and republicans in america, but only democrats to my knowledge have a history of attempting and in some cases (notably, california) actually succeeding in getting independent redistricting comittees to make this form of cheating illegal. here, check the proposed bill out directly:
https://legiscan.com/CA/text/ACA15/2025
notably, the bill will only take effect if other states attempt to gain an unfair advantage over them; it’s only retaliatory. Also, california could redistrict every republican district but one or two in the state but has carefully chosen to only cheat the exact same 5 seats texas cheated; it’s directly proportional. finally, the bill includes a sunset feature that will automatically revert to the fair redistricting comittee in 2031. California’s retaliatory gerrymandering simply does not reflect badly on democrats as you seem to believe, incompetent cowards though they may in general be. and that’s a fucking problem. If anything, them acknowledging that they could cheat harder but are “taking the high road” by only cheating 5 seats is the real fuck up here honestly. If you’re going to cheat because the other guy is cheating, cheat better than the other guy ffs.
Exactly. Colorado also has an independent committee. Those asswipes managed to give equal seats to republicans last election and now its 4-4 dems/gop despite dems having a large statewide majority. Like thanks a lot, what a noble and fair system we have here. Give me equal shenanigans until everyone plays by the same rules. Yes we still have Boebert.
