• FishFace@piefed.social
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    2 months ago

    No it isn’t. Capitalism doesn’t even really have a goal because, unlike Socialism which was consciously invented as an ideology, Capitalism arose by accident and is subscribed to be wildly disparate people with wildly incompatible beliefs. But most of those people don’t want to “own the world and space as a monopoly and ravage the earth to the point of no vegetation” because that’s insane.

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      How did it arise by accident? It’s a system of imposing its will and subjecting others to its will and monopolizing the resources, it’s been around for ages and ages. It’s no different that colonialism/imperialism. People who push for capitalism are insane monsters without morals and a lot of them rape children

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        I guess he means organically as opposed to led by ideologists like the Soviet Union.

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            Or you’re just so extremely in love with your ideas that you’ve become completely uninterested in basic facts that vaguely conflict with your vision of reality.

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            It was influential, but capitalism had essentially already come about in a limited form.

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            And his stated goal was competitive markets forever, not absolute monarchy with more steps. People dunk on conservatives by quoting that book.

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          Ah, so nothing of substance in response so I can chalk this discussion up to bad faith on your end.

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            You’re so far off the deep end that it doesn’t make sense trying to rebut you, so I ask questions that have easy answers to try and discuss something more productive. As usual with folks who think they’re very smart though, you don’t want to answer because it’s not on your terms.

            Take a class in politics. Or hell just read a book.

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              You’ve done nothing but argue some pedantic point of the origin that doesn’t really have anything to do with my original point, I don’t see this going anywhere so I’m not going to waste my time with it

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                  You think the concept of monopolies is a non-existent strawman character of capitalism?

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                    I don’t think monopolies are the “end goal of capitalism”, nor the rest of what he said.

                    What a weird question to ask in the context of the conversation. I noid you genuinely think I said something that implied that?