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    I’m actively fighting them. Still in a legal way. If war breaks out, then I’ll go to other less lawful ways.

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      read about nazi germany it will be too late

      in the US they are playing boiling the frog and soon they’ll escalate all the way, it will happen fast and violent

      i’m not advocating violence, I’m saying we’re going to regret not having done so

      paradox of tolerance should be required study

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        read about nazi germany it will be too late

        Dude, my entire family was in the resistance. My great grandfather hid jews on his farm, was captured, tortured and died in a concentration camp. My family smuggled crashed British pilots back to England and liquidated traitors (family in my mother’s side) and blew up train tracks and communication lines (family on my father’s side). When my grandfather died, we found a huge walk-in closet filled with gas masks, emergency food, machine guns and ammo, a chest filled with hand grenades. In The Netherlands. I’ve had a lot of history lessons in school. Plain history, political history, economic history. I know a lot about nazis, how they come to power, how they work.

        I see what’s happening right now. The lack of democratic and media resistance right now leads to them gaining power, which will lead us having to escalate to more violent and unlawful measures. I don’t want it to come like that, that’s why I’m politically fighting the far right in my country (and fighting fake news) and even though they have taken too much power in my eyes, they can’t just do whatever the fuck they want.

        The US, however, is a failed state and the democrats were way to passive (and also too right wing themselves). So there’s no hope. Violence may be the only option. But just don’t dehumanize your enemy, don’t treat others how you don’t want to be treated yourself.

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            8 hours ago

            … Said Hitler about the jews. Said Netanyahu about Palestinians. Said Trump about trans people.

            If you think you are superior and consider them untermenschen, how are you any different from a fascist exactly?

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              When a fascist talks shit, it’s talking about itself. Literally always.

              Also, not sure trump has said that about trans people. Think he’s saving it for the midterms. You’re just saying crap.

              how are you different

              Blue hair, for one. Very important difference. But stuff that will hit harder for stuffy old intellectual sorts, in case any read this:

              I can explain what i mean when i use words and actually consider stuff intellectually, rather than relying on shallow understandings and gut emotional reactions that barely rise past the level of aesthetics and i valorize and absolutely never explore or apply nuance to. My conclusions flow from my observations rather than the other way around. I tend to revel in rather than abhor complexity. Hey…

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                Also, not sure trump has said that about trans people. Think he’s saving it for the midterms. You’re just saying crap.

                Removing DEI, stripping trans service people of their rights and benefits, denying trans people their identity… Yeah, sure, I’m just talking crap.

                I can explain what i mean when i use words and actually consider stuff intellectually, rather than relying on shallow understandings and gut emotional reactions that barely rise past the level of aesthetics and i valorize and absolutely never explore or apply nuance to. My conclusions flow from my observations rather than the other way around. I tend to revel in rather than abhor complexity. Hey…

                There are fascist intellectuals too. Remember Oppenheimer for example? There were many nazi scientists in nazi Germany. Being a fascist doesn’t automatically mean being dumb or ignorant. It means having a lack of compassion as they don’t care about causing harm to others and they they believe there’s a rank in people, in which they are better than others. Ubermensch and untermensch. They believe some people are more human than others and deserve more rights. Dehumanizing groups of people is usually done to justify crimes against humanity. Murder, torture (like forced medical experimentation like Mengele did), slavery, re-education, sterilization, extermination, etc.

                No matter how evil, fucked up, imbicile, hateful or corrupt someone may be, they are still human and should be treated as such. Even if they don’t treat others like that. Because classifying someone or a group as less human is fascism.

                I am better than those bad people. I’m a better person. I’m not more human than them.

                Look at the world’s history, or what’s happening right now. Humans are fucking evil and fucked up. Some are good, some are bad, but we’re all still human.

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                  deeds not words

                  Oh absolutely trying to kill trans people, for the base, but does not personally give a shit. Is saving the rhetoric for an election.

                  fascist intellectuals

                  There were. There aren’t anymore because it’s a fundamentally anti intellectual movement. Their analyses all amount to a shallow disdain for complexity and contrivance to baffle shitlibs into alliance.

                  saying someone is less human

                  Again, not a distinction im making or care about. This is not meaningful to me Who are you arguing with? Is this just action for the sake of action on your part?

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                    There were. There aren’t anymore

                    Example: Jordan Peterson.

                    There are many others.

                    Don’t underestimate your enemy my friend. Just because the ones in the foreground are low IQ screaming idiots doesn’t mean the quiet ones behind the curtains are low IQ too.

                    It’s not about intellect per se. It’s about empathy. Take a sociopath for example. They can be highly intellectual but their goal will justify any means because they lack any form of it.

                    I’m not saying intellect has nothing to do with the rise of fascism, because fascists are very good at manipulating low IQ people with disinformation. These low IQ people, the heard, won’t see the harm they do because that would drive their support away so it’s all being hidden and twisted.

                    But the core of the rise of fascism is definitely planned by intellectual people and you should not underestimate that.

                    Don’t just look at the skinheads on the street. Look at the people funding fascist tyrants.

                    Again, not a distinction im making or care about. This is not meaningful to me Who are you arguing with? Is this just action for the sake of action on your part?

                    We were talking about dehumanizing people, weren’t we?

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          then don’t act fucking surprised

          not reading the rest of that wall, you should know better