• captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Ah but what if you’re a victim of a crime? Definitely don’t ask victims of crimes what their opinions on the police are after having to call them.

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      21 hours ago

      I called the cops once after my apartment was broken into. They stomped around, flipped all my shit over, and “dusted for fingerprints.” Then they accused me of attempting insurance fraud because I said I had more electronics than they expected.

      I’ve never known a victim of a crime who was relieved after police intervention. Have you?

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        19 hours ago

        They demanded to know what my weed bowl was for when my home was broken into among other things that night. Funny that they found my legal pot but not the cut window screen or the footprints on the bed next to it as they insisted we must have left the front door unlocked

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      1 day ago

      The other night I called the police on a reckless driver. They responded quickly and immediately. I’m happy to live in a place where cops aren’t quite as insane.

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          23 hours ago

          Absolutely correct. ACAB is childish and oversimplified, MCAB is based and realistic.

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            23 hours ago

            For those downvoting, go watch some videos online about police interactions. Most of them involve the police violating peoples’ rights (that sells clicks), but there are still a ton of great interactions where the police knows the limits of the law and doesn’t get near them.

            Good cops exist, and they should be recognized and rewarded instead of lumped in with the bad ones. I’m happy to provide an example or two if someone can’t find them.

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              There is no such thing as a good cop because “good cops” still uphold the racist and bigoted system of oppression and are a tool for the wealthy elite.

              A “good cop” will stand by watching while the bad cops rape and murder the populace.

              Fuck cops and ACAB.

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                11 hours ago

                The world isn’t so black and white. There are good cops and bad cops and everything in between. Good cops join because they want to make the world a better place, and bad cops join because they’re attracted to the power and authority of the badge.

                A good cop will arrest a bad cop given sufficient evidence, and I’ve seen several documented cases of that happening. Some districts are really good about that and are led by a great chief, others are rotten throughout.

                The police system certainly needs reform and better checks, but that doesn’t mean all cops are bad.

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              23 hours ago

              I agree with this sentiment, with one caveat. The idiom “One bad apple spoils the bunch”.

              Until the good cops start policing the bad ones, we can’t know which we’re dealing with and so must begin every interaction with self preservation in mind, as if it will be with the bad one. That sours even the good cops, eventually reinforcing the idea of “us against them” and turning them into future bad ones.

              The entire process is just flawed.

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                23 hours ago

                Some of them do though. I’ve seen videos where police arrest other police. They do exist, and they should be rewarded. Instead, the courts often give bad cops a pass.

                The problem is “qualified immunity” and the police union, which has fought to make it nearly impossible to hold courts accountable.

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                    20 hours ago

                    Again, there are good cops and bad cops. Unfortunately, the good cops who actually arrest bad cops don’t get the recognition they deserve.