but seriously though, notpayforfuel challenge sounds dope. That could lead to the zero carz society.
Something that actually works is buying farm diesel.
Until they break out a blacklight or dip your tank
If everybody did this, we would save so much money.
They can’t catch us all!!!
MAGA logic
it’s real once you get up to oligarch level.
In that case the fee would be around three-fiddy and not $85 or almost 50%.
Just have a look at the most recent slap on Meta’s wrist for knowingly ruining countless lives of children and teenagers.Treefiddy? They’d need about Treefiddy? Now wait now, they’re not a 500 ft tall cryptid from the Paleozoic era now are they? God damit it’s the Loc Ness monster again. No Loc Ness monster I ain’t gonna give you damned treefiddy!
That’s a of total!
Surely the fine is in addition to also having to pay for the stolen fuel?
And not just the normal price, but usually with a factor of 2 or 3 involved.
In reality yes, hence the title
At scale, you just described the financial industry.
Or tech industry
Or capitalism
- you can’t pump without paying/cc
Ok 85 usd, you still have a civil case incoming and they usually get treble aka 3x the price of what you clipped.
It depends on where you are, and “treble” is the word you want.
As opposed to bass?
Three types of damages are compensatory, punitive, and treble. Compensatory damages are the actual damages with which a plaintiff needs compensation. Punitive damages are issued to punish the behavior. Treble punishments add three times compensatory damages to further punish a defendant for outrageous actions.
Auto correct gets me every time.
And I agree it depends were you live, its mostly enforced on farms/livestock/crops.
Have you noticed how awful autocorrect has become? I remember back in Android 9 you had to try to make it get it wrong. Now it’s this and Apple has it just as bad.
Has anyone noticed that gum’s gotten mintier lately?
You’re ducking right, it was better in the days of You’re.
I noticed a big change when i moved to a FOSS keyboard for my phone.
That said, since I moved, it feels like I see more obv typos among others. Weird.
I’ve had a theory on autocorrect for years. Call me a conspiracy theorist or a nutter. But its all by design. They talk about writing “finger prints” I think auto correct catalogs our misspelling fingerprints. Our patterns
And yes its insanely bad at right click correcting, I have to do a search and it comes back 100%… Maybe by design?
This loophole will be corrected before anything JP Morgan currently gets away with a fine on.
It’s not really a loophole, because we haven’t issued fines at less than triple digits in decades.
I foresaw the iran war. I swapped to an EV about a week before prices doubled in my area. I keep doing the math, and ive saved about $300 – and it only cost me $7166!
How do people pump gas before paying?
It’s normal in the UK. Usually someone in the shop needs to see you, then they activate the pump, you pump what you need, then go in and pay. Some stations do have the option to pay at the pump, or via an app, but I’ve never seen one where you can’t pay afterwards.
This was how gas pumps worked everywhere when I started driving
I’m still pissed off at being treated like a thief every time I go to gas up because they started a forever war in the middle east which inflated the price of gas. Then they never brought the cost back down with the price per barrel AND kept the paying before pumping policy.
Yeah.
If you were a local they’d see you pull up and turn on the pump. If you weren’t you’d go inside and pay cash first, but it was inconvenient because it was harder to just fill the tank.
I’m 60, so me, too. But, I haven’t seen a pump or a station that allows pumping before paying in many, many years.
You hand over cash at the counter, and they turn on the pump. Or you pay at the pump--you need to put your card in before the pump will start.
Depends where you live. I live in Australia, and there isn’t a single service station that makes you prepay where I love. You can just pump and pay at the end, always.
You make love in the gas station?
How do you fill your tank without paying for more gas than you’re going to use?
In some gas stations you must pay beforehand, but in others you can pay afterwards so you can fill your tank.
How do you fill your tank without paying for more gas than you’re going to use?
you don’t pay for more than you use. I prepay $100 on my credit card, use $58 and I’m charged $58, the $100 was a security hold and is the most you can get.
In Germany that is the norm. You pay after pumping at the counter. Cashless automatic pumps that require a deposit are rare
Cashless automatic pumps that require a deposit are rare
But getting more common. The ED in Oberzissen now have one pump with a payment device and Oberzissen is in the back end of nowhere.
As an almost completely illiterate (in German) English person I prefer the pay at a counter thing because the usually pleasant person behind the counter can just accept the payment. This is good because getting a phone out to translate the instructions often results in an irate German shouting at you.
In most of northwest europe this is standard. Otherwise how do you know how much you need pay to fill the tank?
That is definitely not true. There is no gas station here where you can do that anymore without having either signed in via an app or credit card.
It used to be like that, but that was a long time ago.
In Canada its an auto function of the payment system. You say you want $100 in gas. The card gets preauthorized for $100 to ensure the money is available then the pump starts. After you finish pumping and get only $80 in fuel that is what is actually charged to the card. The card is charged only after you finish pumping.
What if one only as cash?
Then you pay at the counter for the amount of gas you want to pump and if you overpay you go back to the counter and they give you back the difference.
How do you pay before you know how much you need?
Pay the clerk. If you can’t fit x litres/gallons/whatevers, you go back to the clerk and they give you the remaining balance back.
Well these days credit cards have an authorization function where they can hold $50 or $100 and then when done can release the hold and charge you the proper amount.
And cash is rare enough that they don’t mind inconveniencing those people anymore.
Credit cards? What’s that?
It’s a piece of plastic used in financial transactions, but that’s not important right now.
You mean like a debit card but worse?
A debit card payment is settled immediately. A credit card payment is actually a small loan that’s settled at the end of the month. This goes back to the time that shops made a carbon copy of the card, fill in the amount and let the buyer sign it. That’s why the numbers were raised. Basically they were used as cheques.
Credit cards are more secure.
In Europe it blocks €300. Fuel prices are high. Sometimes a payment doesn’t go through as it should and the remaining amount isn’t released. Then you get an article in the newspaper of someone complaining their couldn’t pay in the shop because 300 was blocked on their account. These things resolve themselves as the bank does a check automatically after a day or two but some folks get caught close to payday.
Personally, I estimate. I have a quarter of a tank, I need 3/4 of a tank. That’s 9 gallons. Times $3.63 is $32.67. I get $30 on pump whatever
Standard procedure in Australia
not at Costco
The same way that people get completely exonerated of a crime by paying a fine for missing their court date: they fucking don’t.
That’s pretty standard some places. Or at least it used to be.
Its something u get in high trust society. This is the cost of soft on crime polices. In most places in Australia its just the norm. You fill up then go in and pay. I can see the downfall of my nation as they start introducing pay first.
Can you even get gas without paying? Seem rare nowadays
How does it even work having to pay before? Cos in germany you pay afterwards. But lets say you fill up for 40 dollars; does the pump then automatically stop when 40 dollars are reached?
You can pay cash or card inside at the counter, tell the attendant how much you want to pay. The pump is then turned on and will pump until it reaches the amount you paid. So, yes, it turns off automatically.
The other option is to pay a the pump, you put your card in, enter your pin, and the pump turns on.
If paying with cash inside before pumping, yes. Then you basically guess how much you need and pay that.
With a card, you “pay” with the card first, but it doesn’t charge the money until after you finished pumping and it knows what to charge.
That citation might have cost 85 dollars in 1981.
LOL, what is wrong with people? This is brain rot.
that’s what the people want
