I know how long the term has been around bud, we haven’t even had this internet shit fifty years for fuck’s sake. If you accept the shitty person you “were,” why did you just produce a cruel estimation of some other person online just because you found their behaviour cringe again? This is the kind of “acceptance” people adopt when they feel guilt but don’t want to change. It’s also so telling to write off actual malice and cruelty in such a fundamental way as “well we all do had things.” No, I’ve never had the inclination to treat a vulnerable person badly, go figure.
And lol, lmao, yes. Which is how I can see straight through this kind of bullshit.
I want to congratulate you for having a normal upbringing, then. I’m not going to offer anything identifying, because I’m not an idiot, but I grew up surrounded by corpses and continued to develop elsewhere in a state of nihilism and rage bred by a family, myself included, in the throes of constantly triggered ptsd. You do not understand enough to judge an internet stranger by their arbitrary admissions. Your scope of understanding is limited by the offense you’ve taken and your frame of reference.
And It’s not just “cringe.” It’s an extreme social trespass and transgression to, and follow me on this, tell someone to break up with their partner because of an llm’s estimation of your desires. Whether satire or not, this person fits within the fringe groups. I’d otherwise call them an incel, but they seem particularly unhinged. Which pejorative do you prefer for a person who parasocially adheres to someone and decides upon their future? This is like defending pedophiles under the umbrella of lgbtq.
Bud, I am not the person to use some sob story to justify cruelty, I know it doesn’t. It may explain it, but you’re using that to rationalize it. The fact you once again just resorted to “you’re too sensitive,” as a fucking excuse for yourself it another good s indicator that no, you haven’t addressed the issue.
This also isn’t an incel…and it is so interesting that you took that opportunity to try and obscure and reduce the harm that incel culture causes to justify making fun of some cringe. I wonder why that’d be. The queer comment was also just straight up bigoted again, we all know that isn’t comparable and it’s once again telling that you think it is. Oh, is it worse to be weird than an actual fascist? Strange.
I see you dude, not because I’m a mind reader or whatever you wanna pretend, but because you’re saying things that reveal fundamental values and it’s obvious you didn’t realize that.
It is kind of crazy to see how many of you think you’re using some kind of common sense. You guys hate it when people can read your values from your words, it seems like many of you find comfort in the notion that knowing people perceive it as bad allows you to hide the fact that you don’t actually challenge bigoted values in yourself.
This commenter went on to use this example to pretend incels are like cringey shippers, and that should tell you everything about their values. It’s not “jumping to conclusions,” when it’s just deduction.
My first paragraph in reply was in reference to you patting yourself on the back for never having a cruel thought. I admit, I should have clarified rather than jumping into vitriol.
Do you genuinely not understand why someone would search for exceedingly harmful words for a person trying something this creepy? I feel like I need to understand that before I can begin to understand anything else you’ve said.
And I recognize my long road. My first comment was actively chiding me. This is like going to AA and going “I think these people are addicts.”
It is honestly so difficult to explain to people like this that they’re being harmful even when they recognize one element of that harm and take it as the endpoint. You just compared this to an online cultural space that literally advocates for and has facilitated dozens of mass murders under the premise of misogyny and aggrieved entitlement. Maybe if those things are comparable to you, you aren’t the right person to be talking about it, and presuming you are is exactly what the issue is.
If you call someone an asshole, that is not the same thing as calling them a slur, and either choice represents different kinds of people. It is not that you were a big stinky meanie, but that the beliefs behind these words are fundamentally bigoted. Yes, fucking lolcow culture that enabled the mass harassment of disabled people, often younger, sometimes even to the point of suicide, is not a suitable thing to refer to some person being weird about something you find gross. Even if you look at this as harassment, comparing it to fascist terrorists only serves to obscure the specificity and ideology of that culture and its very real politics as well as the hundreds of people who have been killed because of it (and that’s without even addressing how this culture is directly linked to the current popularity of fascist politics in the US, then we’re really talking about a mass scale of suffering you think is trivial).
So, why would a person who openly admitted to participating in exceptionally cruel group behaviour then take an opportunity to do something like that? hmmmmmm.🤔
But sure, totally dude, you feel super bad about it and rib yourself for it, so that makes it okay to still believe in. You can tell this site is mostly men because of exactly shit like this, where you clearly have empathy for only one group involved in this violence, and it isn’t the victims.
I feel I need to begin by telling you that you do not understand what an incel is, if this behavior doesn’t tick any boxes. Tertiary and quaternary sources offered you an incomplete picture, to the point that I don’t know where to offer information. You will have to ask questions to fill in your blanks.
Lolcow is a slur?? I didn’t perceive it that way, which is where the misunderstanding began. I can absolutely see how you’d take what I wrote differently based upon that distinction, and I’ll avoid using the term in that way in the future. I appreciate you clarifying that for me. To me, it was the same as shorthand describing them as maladaptive and easily baited, as that was the contemporaneous definition. I’m not going to excuse it, that was my mistake.
I don’t believe it would be productive to speak on anything in your last two paragraphs, as there are clearly misunderstandings, whether you recognize them or not.
I’m sure every criticism feels like a misunderstanding to you. Common trope of abusers too, go figure, wonder if that’s related.
Just also, “maladaptive,” after pretending to not understand the ableist connotations this whole time is just the cherry on top. Again, I see you dude.
I apologize if this comes off as rude, but you’ve clearly checked out of this conversation. I want to thank you once again for clarifying, what I did was objectively deeply shitty, but I understand completely that there is nothing of value to be gained for either one of us in continuing this conversation. If I transgress upon someone in the future, I’d appreciate you doing what you’ve done here today.
Genuinely, none of what you just wrote here is necessary. This person isn’t offering anything remotely close to reasonable criticisms. They’re just a faux leftist who has identified you as someone that it’s socially acceptable for them to bully.
I know how long the term has been around bud, we haven’t even had this internet shit fifty years for fuck’s sake. If you accept the shitty person you “were,” why did you just produce a cruel estimation of some other person online just because you found their behaviour cringe again? This is the kind of “acceptance” people adopt when they feel guilt but don’t want to change. It’s also so telling to write off actual malice and cruelty in such a fundamental way as “well we all do had things.” No, I’ve never had the inclination to treat a vulnerable person badly, go figure.
And lol, lmao, yes. Which is how I can see straight through this kind of bullshit.
I want to congratulate you for having a normal upbringing, then. I’m not going to offer anything identifying, because I’m not an idiot, but I grew up surrounded by corpses and continued to develop elsewhere in a state of nihilism and rage bred by a family, myself included, in the throes of constantly triggered ptsd. You do not understand enough to judge an internet stranger by their arbitrary admissions. Your scope of understanding is limited by the offense you’ve taken and your frame of reference.
And It’s not just “cringe.” It’s an extreme social trespass and transgression to, and follow me on this, tell someone to break up with their partner because of an llm’s estimation of your desires. Whether satire or not, this person fits within the fringe groups. I’d otherwise call them an incel, but they seem particularly unhinged. Which pejorative do you prefer for a person who parasocially adheres to someone and decides upon their future? This is like defending pedophiles under the umbrella of lgbtq.
I’m glad you’re a better person now.
Same. For my sake and everyone else’s. The world needs broken people like a slug needs salt.
Some taste bland without it
They aren’t.
Bud, I am not the person to use some sob story to justify cruelty, I know it doesn’t. It may explain it, but you’re using that to rationalize it. The fact you once again just resorted to “you’re too sensitive,” as a fucking excuse for yourself it another good s indicator that no, you haven’t addressed the issue.
This also isn’t an incel…and it is so interesting that you took that opportunity to try and obscure and reduce the harm that incel culture causes to justify making fun of some cringe. I wonder why that’d be. The queer comment was also just straight up bigoted again, we all know that isn’t comparable and it’s once again telling that you think it is. Oh, is it worse to be weird than an actual fascist? Strange.
I see you dude, not because I’m a mind reader or whatever you wanna pretend, but because you’re saying things that reveal fundamental values and it’s obvious you didn’t realize that.
Why aren’t you upset that the VA put this person on blast by posting the screenshot instead of offering their personal support?
Is it because this kind of behavior is incredibly fuckin creepy and shouldn’t be coddled in any way?
And why doesn’t it come into play that this delusional weirdo is causing very real emotional distress to the VA?
Oh that’s simple, because that isnt what I’m talking about. Reread the first comment I made.
The one where you jumped to conclusions after someone correctly pointed out that this behavior would result in bullying in the 2000s?
It is kind of crazy to see how many of you think you’re using some kind of common sense. You guys hate it when people can read your values from your words, it seems like many of you find comfort in the notion that knowing people perceive it as bad allows you to hide the fact that you don’t actually challenge bigoted values in yourself.
This commenter went on to use this example to pretend incels are like cringey shippers, and that should tell you everything about their values. It’s not “jumping to conclusions,” when it’s just deduction.
It’s kind of crazy how confident you are with your degree in Armchair Psychoanalysis.
I take it you’re part of the shipper community?
As representative of the shipper community I feel it is my duty to say: heeeey! :(
You guys seriously can’t imagine someone saying youre wrong without it being about teams. I’d be shitting on fascists either way bud.
My first paragraph in reply was in reference to you patting yourself on the back for never having a cruel thought. I admit, I should have clarified rather than jumping into vitriol.
Do you genuinely not understand why someone would search for exceedingly harmful words for a person trying something this creepy? I feel like I need to understand that before I can begin to understand anything else you’ve said.
And I recognize my long road. My first comment was actively chiding me. This is like going to AA and going “I think these people are addicts.”
It is honestly so difficult to explain to people like this that they’re being harmful even when they recognize one element of that harm and take it as the endpoint. You just compared this to an online cultural space that literally advocates for and has facilitated dozens of mass murders under the premise of misogyny and aggrieved entitlement. Maybe if those things are comparable to you, you aren’t the right person to be talking about it, and presuming you are is exactly what the issue is.
If you call someone an asshole, that is not the same thing as calling them a slur, and either choice represents different kinds of people. It is not that you were a big stinky meanie, but that the beliefs behind these words are fundamentally bigoted. Yes, fucking lolcow culture that enabled the mass harassment of disabled people, often younger, sometimes even to the point of suicide, is not a suitable thing to refer to some person being weird about something you find gross. Even if you look at this as harassment, comparing it to fascist terrorists only serves to obscure the specificity and ideology of that culture and its very real politics as well as the hundreds of people who have been killed because of it (and that’s without even addressing how this culture is directly linked to the current popularity of fascist politics in the US, then we’re really talking about a mass scale of suffering you think is trivial).
So, why would a person who openly admitted to participating in exceptionally cruel group behaviour then take an opportunity to do something like that? hmmmmmm.🤔
But sure, totally dude, you feel super bad about it and rib yourself for it, so that makes it okay to still believe in. You can tell this site is mostly men because of exactly shit like this, where you clearly have empathy for only one group involved in this violence, and it isn’t the victims.
I feel I need to begin by telling you that you do not understand what an incel is, if this behavior doesn’t tick any boxes. Tertiary and quaternary sources offered you an incomplete picture, to the point that I don’t know where to offer information. You will have to ask questions to fill in your blanks.
Lolcow is a slur?? I didn’t perceive it that way, which is where the misunderstanding began. I can absolutely see how you’d take what I wrote differently based upon that distinction, and I’ll avoid using the term in that way in the future. I appreciate you clarifying that for me. To me, it was the same as shorthand describing them as maladaptive and easily baited, as that was the contemporaneous definition. I’m not going to excuse it, that was my mistake.
I don’t believe it would be productive to speak on anything in your last two paragraphs, as there are clearly misunderstandings, whether you recognize them or not.
I’m sure every criticism feels like a misunderstanding to you. Common trope of abusers too, go figure, wonder if that’s related.
Just also, “maladaptive,” after pretending to not understand the ableist connotations this whole time is just the cherry on top. Again, I see you dude.
I apologize if this comes off as rude, but you’ve clearly checked out of this conversation. I want to thank you once again for clarifying, what I did was objectively deeply shitty, but I understand completely that there is nothing of value to be gained for either one of us in continuing this conversation. If I transgress upon someone in the future, I’d appreciate you doing what you’ve done here today.
Genuinely, none of what you just wrote here is necessary. This person isn’t offering anything remotely close to reasonable criticisms. They’re just a faux leftist who has identified you as someone that it’s socially acceptable for them to bully.
“If,” I’m sure.