• cub Gucci@lemmy.today
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    1 day ago

    Ehm mister or not,

    What engineers does society in 2026 reward? Last time I checked everyone is fucked

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      The people at FAANGS (or whatever they’re calling it now) famously start with wages that would be the absolute peak of someone else’s career. Never mind comparing to an unskilled worker.

      I know less about what physical/“real” engineers make in 2026, but I doubt it’s changed that much.

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        Real engineer here, mechanical working to design medical devices like plates and screws for trauma cases.

        We average around $100k across the US, and on the extreme end can top out around $200k, but that’s a rare case. Typical top end is $150k with I’d say at least 12 years if experience.

        Starting salary typically $70k.

        This is for places that are average COL, so not San Francisco, and also not Alabama.

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          Yeah, that’s decent. Not fuck-you money, but decent.

          OP asked for any example, so I went with FAANGS, but wages there are inflated by being a bunch of monopolies all headquartered in the same place. Last I heard a senior dev in Canada makes like 60k.

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              17 hours ago

              Well, maybe the guy I was talking to was underpaid. It’s definitely a lot less than in the 'states, though.

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        Yeah, buddy, hate to bring it to you, but software engineers are not the real engineers. We’re just monkeys repeating something that we barely heard of.

        You can start working as a software engineer just after school. Imagine an aerospace, civil, or electrical engineer without proper education.

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          17 hours ago

          Okay, sure, the guy that mostly copy-pastes/vibecodes javascript is not on level with a rocket scientist. What about, like, Linus Torvalds, though? The complexity involved in a big codebase outstrips even the most complicated aircraft. Nobody’s saying mathematicians aren’t serious thinkers, and yet, we’re putting in a whole lot of effort, with things like Lean, to catch up with coders.

          They aren’t accredited like “real” engineers, but that might be a matter of where we are in history more than anything. Charles Parsons didn’t have to certify anything when he was building the first dreadnoughts. Both fields are about designing new technology, and that’s basically what defines the word “engineer”.