• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      20 hours ago

      See, I think they’re more Christian than you. The rosary is simply a reminder to pray quietly and not show off their religion. Something you seem to have missed. And what about not judging?

      It’s all moot. Y’all are arguing over different flavors of a fanfic. Real Jesus was nothing like the book.

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        The rosary is simply a reminder to pray quietly and not show off their religion

        Nope, the Bible doesn’t say anything about beads. Prayer is meant to be simple. The rosary is adding to God’s word.

        Revalation 22:18 “ For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book”

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            I shouldn’t be. I wouldn’t be if things had gone ever so slightly different. Idk if God saved me or whatever

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              It sounds like you had a brush with death and that you think God saved you and that you need to go profess his message.

              If I can offer an alternate viewpoint.

              You almost died and God put you back on Earth to improve the situation and lives of others. And one thing I can tell you about religion is it does not do this. People get so caught up in proselytizing that they don’t actually do anything good. Lip service instead of real progress. Nitpicking and fighting with each other over differing interpretations.

              Jesus’s message was very clear: help others. That’s the whole fucking thing. And every time you judge someone to be less or more Christian than you, you’re not helping anybody.

              Donating, charity work, voting for socialist policies, volunteering: these are things that actually move the needle. And none of these require religion.

              So do the world a favor. Put down the judgy attitude, grab a lawn mower, and go mow some old ladies lawn for free.

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        19 hours ago

        I’ll ask you again: yes or no, do you believe a church (the Catholic Church) which allows and enables its preachers all throughout its history to molest children is a church of Christ?

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          Yes. Because God impregnated a child to birth your savior. Let alone the power differential. Consent was literally impossible.

          And what’s good enough for the goose is good enough for the gander. Or gosling, in this case.

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      The guy you linked seems insane to me, no offense.

      Also wafer not being the body of Christ? Isn’t that during the Last Supper that Jesus says that this is my body? The wafers are just an analogue to that.

      Why is he worrying so much about honorifics like “Father” as well? This is just a bizarre wall of text.

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        Ruben Israel was insane (he was an Arminian). But I at least agree with him on his list of Catholic errors

        Matthew 23:9 says: “ And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven” Basically, it is directly against the word of God to call a priest that word.

        But yeah, I agree with him on that list, not on his other Arminian ways. A comedian made a rather funny documentary on him it’s worth a watch if only for shits and giggles

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          Who gives a toss about specific quotes like that? They’re mistranslated copy of telephone game word of mouth of stuff random people came up with hundreds of years after Jesus died. And that quote could just be saying don’t call you dad ‘father’ - which is just stupid.

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            Who gives a toss about specific quotes like that?

            Well people who believe in it ig. Ask them, I can’t really speak for them why they would one specific theology

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              I am personally really in the gnostic branches of early Christianity.

              Those have Jesus mock his followers for worshipping jaweh, which is the devil.

              My modern reading about those texts is:

              • Myths are a way to pass on knowledge.
              • Myths are frequently taken for religion.
              • People who are religious, rather then spiritual philosophers are dumb.

              Post-theism 2000 years before Cultural Christians became popular in Europe.