Holy shit you meant autocracy lmao. I wish I had half the ego you types do, to run my mouth about the governance of a specific country when I dont even know the difference between autocracy and aristrocracy. The hubris you have, goddamn. What a fucking idiot you are.
Anyway China is a democracy, one of very few in the modern world. People are elected on the basis of their merit, which is why you see most Chinese politicians arent lawyers from Ivy League schools, but people with real experience and more practically oriented educations. Because they’re actually elected, instead of hand-picked by a small group of rich people that then support them.
And these people are able to govern 1.4 billion in the largest socialist country in the world, as opposed to whatever anarchist tendency you subscribe to which can boast of… Probably a decent soup kitchen or some funny internet drama.
No aristocracy can coincide with nobility but the term itself just means a small privileged ruling class hold all the power. Yes in the middle ages this was inherited, but that’s not a requirement.
How I which what you say is true, that they had soviets or some form of direct representation. But like the west they have a ruling class. It’s just the CCP instead of bourgeois, though admittedly they strip away the pretensions of merrit by direct appointment. Workers at best have representations in the form of trade unions.
I’d cite some american university papers but you’d just call it propaganda. I which you could discard your rose tinted glasses and were able to criticise china. I mean their planned economy is way better than the west’s economy based on greed driven decisions. Nontheless the decisions are ultimately made by a ruling class.
“Aristrocracy” as a system of governance is one where a noble elite pass on government positions through inheritance.
In practical application this never has such a clean-cut look, just like every other structure of governance. “Democracy” means rulership of the people and yet no modern “democracy” has all people show up and all vote on everything.
A “monarchy” is a rule of a singular dictator who inherited the position, yet in practice every monarchy was not just one guy deciding everything with absolute power and the ability to discount other powerful nobles. Yet we still describe them as monarchies.
That actual aristocracies don’t fit neatly with the absolute description, does not mean that that is not what “aristrocracy” as a form of governance is.
Because yes, in practice, you had to become a noble somehow. And sometimes you didnt inherit stuff. Just like how in democracies functionaries aren’t directly elected and laws are passed by representatives rather than all the people and some of those representatives might not even be elected, yet we still designated the system as a democracy.
An aristrocracy is not just “a small ruling class holding all the power”. If that were the case then every parliamentary or representative democracy would be considered an aristrocracy. The inheritance of title and position is key, you absolute moron.
If you wanted something you could have made a very bad argument for oligarchy. But really you should just shut the fuck up on things you dont know and learn instead.
My response is far more civil and respectful than the initial comment or any of their responses. Civility and respect is not just tone, but also action, and goddamn it is disrespectful to show up and spread shit everywhere like they did. Have the basic decency to not run your mouth on things you have fuck all understanding of. Me responding to you like this is in fact because they broke rule 1.
Did you mean to say “autocracy?” Like another user said, aristocracy involves a class of nobles with inherited rights.
Now, the system China had before the CPC came to power, that could reasonably be described as an aristocracy. But literally one of the first things that happened after the communists came to power was that that class was forcibly eliminated and their land was redistributed to the people who worked it.
Words change, aristocracy in ancient greece meant ‘rule by the best’ and they regarded inheritence as corruption. And while I’m sure president Xi is influential, I doubt he has the ‘absolute’ power for the word autocracy to fit.
Olligarchy would’ve been more unambigous.
I’m trying to play chess with a bunch of pidgeons who think they’re winning, smh
I don’t live in ancient Greece, I live in the modern day where words are understood to mean what they mean now, not what they meant thousands of years ago.
I’m trying to play chess with a bunch of pidgeons who think they’re winning, smh
Leadership isn’t appointed in an aristocracy, it’s inherited, so you might have chosen the absolute worst descriptor. You could have used it as an adjective, maybe, but as the description of the structure itself it’s completely moronic. Yeah China isn’t an aristocracy because the positions aren’t inhereted, there we go your mind is changed.
No aristocracy can coincide with nobility but the term itself just means a small privileged ruling class hold all the power. Yes you’re right, in the middle ages this was mostly inherited, but that’s not a requirement. Of course the king/emperor could appoint nobles aswell. All these inbred mfers had to start somewhere after all.
but the term itself just means a small privileged ruling class hold all the power.
Jesus Christ you keep doing this. Do you not see how rude it is to talk like you do on something you clearly dont understand?
If that were the definition, then every representative type of government would be an aristrocracy. It would make the definition completely redundant, because it would just describe “representative government” which we already have a descriptor for. Fuck you people. Thicker than bricks and the ego of a 40’s physicist.
Why should I care about changing your mind lmao? Keep believing what you want. People’s opinions are irrelevant and constantly changing. Material reality shows China is working towards building socialism. That is enough for the literate
States have legitimacy?🤡
Even China imho is a modern aristocracy, change my mind.
It shows. Always happy to give you the impulse to start though <3
Holy shit you meant autocracy lmao. I wish I had half the ego you types do, to run my mouth about the governance of a specific country when I dont even know the difference between autocracy and aristrocracy. The hubris you have, goddamn. What a fucking idiot you are.
Anyway China is a democracy, one of very few in the modern world. People are elected on the basis of their merit, which is why you see most Chinese politicians arent lawyers from Ivy League schools, but people with real experience and more practically oriented educations. Because they’re actually elected, instead of hand-picked by a small group of rich people that then support them.
And these people are able to govern 1.4 billion in the largest socialist country in the world, as opposed to whatever anarchist tendency you subscribe to which can boast of… Probably a decent soup kitchen or some funny internet drama.
No aristocracy can coincide with nobility but the term itself just means a small privileged ruling class hold all the power. Yes in the middle ages this was inherited, but that’s not a requirement.
How I which what you say is true, that they had soviets or some form of direct representation. But like the west they have a ruling class. It’s just the CCP instead of bourgeois, though admittedly they strip away the pretensions of merrit by direct appointment. Workers at best have representations in the form of trade unions.
I’d cite some american university papers but you’d just call it propaganda. I which you could discard your rose tinted glasses and were able to criticise china. I mean their planned economy is way better than the west’s economy based on greed driven decisions. Nontheless the decisions are ultimately made by a ruling class.
“Aristrocracy” as a system of governance is one where a noble elite pass on government positions through inheritance.
In practical application this never has such a clean-cut look, just like every other structure of governance. “Democracy” means rulership of the people and yet no modern “democracy” has all people show up and all vote on everything.
A “monarchy” is a rule of a singular dictator who inherited the position, yet in practice every monarchy was not just one guy deciding everything with absolute power and the ability to discount other powerful nobles. Yet we still describe them as monarchies.
That actual aristocracies don’t fit neatly with the absolute description, does not mean that that is not what “aristrocracy” as a form of governance is.
Because yes, in practice, you had to become a noble somehow. And sometimes you didnt inherit stuff. Just like how in democracies functionaries aren’t directly elected and laws are passed by representatives rather than all the people and some of those representatives might not even be elected, yet we still designated the system as a democracy.
An aristrocracy is not just “a small ruling class holding all the power”. If that were the case then every parliamentary or representative democracy would be considered an aristrocracy. The inheritance of title and position is key, you absolute moron.
If you wanted something you could have made a very bad argument for oligarchy. But really you should just shut the fuck up on things you dont know and learn instead.
Rule one please
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My response is far more civil and respectful than the initial comment or any of their responses. Civility and respect is not just tone, but also action, and goddamn it is disrespectful to show up and spread shit everywhere like they did. Have the basic decency to not run your mouth on things you have fuck all understanding of. Me responding to you like this is in fact because they broke rule 1.
Y’all really just pick negative words at random to describe China as, I swear you picked “aristocracy” out of a hat.
Uhm actshually i pulled it out of my ass🤓
No wonder it’s a shitty description.
You’ve got a better word for a top-down system for appointing leadership?
Love how proud Americans are of their illiteracy
Did you mean to say “autocracy?” Like another user said, aristocracy involves a class of nobles with inherited rights.
Now, the system China had before the CPC came to power, that could reasonably be described as an aristocracy. But literally one of the first things that happened after the communists came to power was that that class was forcibly eliminated and their land was redistributed to the people who worked it.
Words change, aristocracy in ancient greece meant ‘rule by the best’ and they regarded inheritence as corruption. And while I’m sure president Xi is influential, I doubt he has the ‘absolute’ power for the word autocracy to fit.
Olligarchy would’ve been more unambigous.
I’m trying to play chess with a bunch of pidgeons who think they’re winning, smh
I don’t live in ancient Greece, I live in the modern day where words are understood to mean what they mean now, not what they meant thousands of years ago.
You are the pidgeon.
Leadership isn’t appointed in an aristocracy, it’s inherited, so you might have chosen the absolute worst descriptor. You could have used it as an adjective, maybe, but as the description of the structure itself it’s completely moronic. Yeah China isn’t an aristocracy because the positions aren’t inhereted, there we go your mind is changed.
No aristocracy can coincide with nobility but the term itself just means a small privileged ruling class hold all the power. Yes you’re right, in the middle ages this was mostly inherited, but that’s not a requirement. Of course the king/emperor could appoint nobles aswell. All these inbred mfers had to start somewhere after all.
Jesus Christ you keep doing this. Do you not see how rude it is to talk like you do on something you clearly dont understand?
If that were the definition, then every representative type of government would be an aristrocracy. It would make the definition completely redundant, because it would just describe “representative government” which we already have a descriptor for. Fuck you people. Thicker than bricks and the ego of a 40’s physicist.
Why should I care about changing your mind lmao? Keep believing what you want. People’s opinions are irrelevant and constantly changing. Material reality shows China is working towards building socialism. That is enough for the literate
can’t change something that’s not there to begin with