• Madrigal@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Dumb fucks really think LLMs are the kind of AI involved in medical and scientific research.

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      Yeah. At this point LLMs are what people are referring to 95% of the time when they say AI. If one comes up with the cure for cancer, it’s because we already have it and it picked it up in the last data scrape.

      And someone wins the coveted Nobel Prompt Prize.

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                Transformers and diffusion models are not the same, even if they use related math

                Edit: By the magic of advanced mathematics, every Turing complete structure can be rewritten into any other Turing complete structure with no loss of function or change in behavior

                So the logic “remove one” will remove all of modern computing because the AI companies are not giving up their models. If they have to start pretending they aren’t neural network anymore, then they will.

                And if you DON’T rewrite, then you’re back to them actually being different again

                https://infosec.pub/comment/23830616

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                    This is a dumb take. You can use a more general term like large dataset generative machine learning. Legislation needs to understand the different risks between the different implementations to do any good.

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      ChatGPT, cure cancer for me.

      No, that didn’t work, try again

      That one gave me a rash, try again.

      That last one did not work, also the rash is starting to look a little gross.

      Sorry for the delay, I had to go to the ER to get my arm amputated from the rash, can you try again, also look for a cure for amputated arm.

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      Hyper scalers have so little for their models and compute to do they are just brute force hacking things or mining crypto.

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          So, the manuscript I referenced which no one read uses a language model. you just input text protein sequence and it will generate binding peptides sequences, using only the language model. A version of an LLM.

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        3 days ago

        They absolutely are, but most people on this platform would prefer to hear their comfortable lie instead.

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            Yes they are? Literally have to listen to a friend bitch about them every single day. She’s a biochemist. They do literally use specialized AI models, general LLMs and and a number of other transformer based technologies.

            And while the specialized ones are useful the stupid chat bot ones are fucking over processes all over the place.

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            I’m not such why you’d utter such a lie so confidently. This reeks of fear, ignorance or a mix of both.

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            No, chatbots are not used in medical or scientific research.

            So you’re a scientist?

            I use LLMs every day, they search deep into supplemental data and manuscripts that would take months to sift through. Can’t find specific information, reagents or data using title and abstract searches.

            LLMs can be useful tools, but this entire thread is people with bullshit jobs scared of being replaced by an algorithm because they know they have a bullshit job.

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            I think it’s more that the way the chatbots work is the same. They assign a bunch of numbers to tokens, and the numbers determine how interrelated different tokens are. You put in a bunch of tokens and then it spits out what it thinks the next one should be based on all the interrelatedness numbers and some math things like transformers, and the math things have knobs on them to determine how strong they are. It doesn’t matter if the tokens are words in a sentence or peptides in a protein. The underlying technology is the same.

            This is an exciting use for a tool that I mostly despise for probably all the same reasons you do.

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              Chat bot is the interface. Its like saying, “NO, life saving drugs arent made with keyboards and mice!”