The progressive group Indivisible called for Democratic lawmakers on Wednesday to replace Sen. Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) as Democratic leader after the party secured control of both chambers of Congress in Tuesday’s midterm elections.

“Yesterday, voters made it very clear that they want a new generation of Democratic fighters,” the group wrote in a social media post. “We need a leader in the Senate who is capable of leading that fight. It’s time for Senate Democrats to choose new leadership.”

The group cited the Democratic leader’s faltering approval ratings in its Wednesday statement. An NBC News poll conducted at the end of October found only 13 percent of registered voters viewed Schumer’s leadership positively.

“The American people did not elect Democrats by historic margins just to bend the knee and go back to business as usual,” Indivisible said in its statement. “Senate Democrats need to listen to the voters and turn the page on status quo politics.”

The paid opposition running the Democrats will not falter in their supporting of their Republican donors’ causes.

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    Which option is more likely to get a Dem elected President in 2028?

    A - A long, drawn out impeachment fight that leaves JD as President?

    B- Hitting the ground fast and getting Medicare For All passed and signed by Trump?

    I want a deal making arm-twister who can get things done. I want LBJ in charge of the Senate.

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      Why would Trump sign M4A into law? Reverse Fetterman stroke? Bribery?

      You can’t really make deals with Republicans because they’ll just stonewall you, like they did Obama. You’d have to have leverage and I don’t know what kind of leverage you’re picturing.

      I do agree that they don’t have the votes for impeachment so it’s pretty worthless. And forcing Trump to veto M4A could be an effective strategy if they go on to run on it in 2028. But it’s not getting through in the next two years with a divided government and no organized mass movement.

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      I think the issue with this plan is that most elected Dems don’t support Medicare For All. DSA needs to primary and replace them first. It’s doable but will take time. Something more realistic is needed for the next two years.

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        This is another thing a lot of people here are ignoring.

        Not every Dem is a Progressive. Obama had a super majority and it took him two years to pass the ACA, a bill he called ‘a starter house.’

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          Yes, and a lot of the widely celebrated wins in red states are still very conservative Dems. They didn’t run on progressive ideas and will not support any of it.

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            Thank you!

            The thing I want people to remember is that we’ve got the same number of Progressives today that we had in 2024. What won the election was people who voted for Trump three times finally getting sick of him.

            Those folks want lower gas prices, not impeachment.

            Let him sit in the White House for two years and then let the state courts have at him.

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              “those folks want lower gas prices”

              Who gives a fuck what pedophile supporting Nazis want? Fuck them and anyone in power in their party needs to be in our prison or the Hague.

              Who are you? Why on earth would you sit here and try to treat these sociopathic and sadistic monsters who cheered for little girls to be blown up, and immigrants to be put in concetration camps and trafficked all over the world as “folks who want lower gas prices”?

              We have to remove every conservative from the democratic party and that includes neoliberals. Capitalism breaks brains I guess and as long as their 401k is good, they will just goose-step all over the world and allow whatever to go on I guess

              We have way more progressives now as evidenced by DSA wins

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                I understand where you’re coming from, by under current conditions, with the American people being reactionary, it’s impossible for the left to hold power on its own. That means the only ways of achieving power are to work with shitty people or to convince formerly shitty people to stop being shitty.

                What is the path to victory, if we isolate ourselves from the average person?

                We can (and must) begin to build socialism, not with abstract human material, or with human material specially prepared by us, but with the human material bequeathed to us by capitalism. True, that is no easy matter, but no other approach to this task is serious enough to warrant discussion.

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                  I largely agree with you on this, but there are limits to “shitty people”. Religious extremists and Nazis have an entire philosophy and desire to destroy and/or control everyone else. They feel joy when people they don’t like are in pain. They cannot be dealt with any other way than banishment or destruction (and banishment just means we will deal with them later)

                  With that being said, maybe some of the neoliberals will change, but they are already working hard to appease the elements of the extreme right rather than the left as we speak

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                Nazis vote.

                Votes win elections.

                There are people who voted for Obama twice, and then voted for Trump three times.

                You want to win elections, listen to them. You don’t have to pander to them, but you have to deal with reality.

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                  Nah. I won’t deal with pedophilic Nazi supporters ever.

                  “There are people who voted for Obama twice, and then voted for Trump three times.”

                  I don’t care about whatever stupid people these are. To have voted for Obama twice and to switch to Trump, shows you don’t have values, don’t have any political or economic knowledge, and generally can’t form a cohesive thought because there wasn’t a single thing spoken from that orange fuck’s mouth that sounded good to single normal person.

                  It shows that they don’t even have an ideology or political stance, they are JUST cultists looking for a leader. Those kind of people don’t need to be part of our party, they offer nothing

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                    What part of ‘Nazis vote’ confuses you?

                    About half the qualified voters actually bothered to go to the polls on Tuesday.

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              The thing I want people to remember is that we’ve got the same number of Progressives today that we had in 2024.

              Except that, you know, all the DSA members who were literally just elected for the first time?

              Quick Google search tells me that DSA is poised to win 105 seats, functionally quadrupling their presence in Congress.

              So yeah dude, totally the exact same number of progressives as 2024 🙄

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                And?

                Obama won two elections in a row, and then Trump came in.

                If you think everyone who voted for a DSA candidate last night is now a Progressive you’re wrong.

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              Well Vance would presumably give Iran whatever it wants to open the strait. He could also roll back Trump’s suicidal treasury policies and tariffs.

              So they do want impeachment. If all they want is just cheap gas that would do it.

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        Trump has zero loyalty to the GOP.

        He’ll do what he sees as best for himself.

        If we have to let him blame Pete H for the Iran invasion, let’s do it. If we call Medicare For All the ‘Donald Trump is A Genius Bill’ let’s do that.