• OpenStars@discuss.online
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    1 day ago

    This presumes that data centers offer no value in return.

    When in fact, they return negative value.

    • AA5B@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      It’s always the externalities. They return positive value to a few owners while negative value to the communities they’re inflicted on. And given that ai is almost certainly a bubble, who cleans up after it pops

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        5 hours ago

        Is there a fun way to say “si” now instead of “ai”? 😜

        Maybe riffing on how those two letters in sequence in Spanish translates as “yes”, as in obsequiousness rather than practical utility.

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      Won’t you think of the ad delivery system? And what about the profiling? Eventually, governments we’ll be able to pluck rabble rousers off social media to quell the public from rioting.

      High value, just not for any of us.

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        21 hours ago

        Stop the disingenous techbro “but you already use datacenters/yet you live in society, curious” excuse. We are talking about hyperscaler datacenters here.

        We know that the cloud uses datacenters, but they are far smaller and use less energy. Almost all new datacenters being build or being projected are huge hyperscaler datacenters, which uses a lot more water and energy than any of our previous ones.

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          6 hours ago

          Good thing I found out that my server is hosted on an average mom-n’-pop Oracle hosting barnyard.

          P.S. whats the costs piefed.social incur monthly at your small town Hetzner server?

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          10 hours ago

          And most importantly they are planned for sustainable value

          The difference now is a mad rush to add many more in a very short while, overwhelming power and water and appropriate sites. And that it’s likely a bubble, so many of that mad rush is likely to be abandoned in a few years