I mean, you’re taking 10kg of plant food and turning it into 1kg of meat food. That seems useless to Me, it seems like throwing away food, but maybe your math looks different.
I don’t like distraction from a topic.
Which was clearly not related to eating meat.
Given your vote count, seems I’m not alone.
Congrats on being annoying?
Hope you contribute something, somewhere, someday.
While their marketing slogan of “eat the rich” is very good, it should be noted that it is not recommended as a sustained diet, as they are very often quite high in fats and full of preservatives and bad chemicals
I’m pretty sure a more useful measure of this is calories per unit of water than straight weight/mass. Which tbf is a metric meat will probably still be less efficient by.
There’s also like multiple factors of this, if you’re growing meat at industrial scale then you are farming crops specifically to feed the cattle so its doubly wasteful; but not everything is like beef, goats grazing on mountains where you can’t plant crops easily can feed a family with minimal labor, and they produce more than just meat. Ideally you wouldnt be raising cattle for just the meat.
Soy yields roughly 2,12 calories per liter of water, whereas flesh yields about 0,16 calories per liter of water.
Your other comments are more about animal agriculture and not about water usage (which is what this post is about) but to address all of your arguments I will say that I think it is wrong to cage, impregnate and kill others for the simple fact that they experience the world just like you and me in all the ways that matter to whether it’s ethical to be inflicting these things on them.
I think the line is kind of arbitrary where people care for animals in regards to how equal to treat them to humans. Like you can argue an ant also “experiences the world”, hell even coral are technically animals. I dont think that reasoning works unless you literally think every insect is equivalent to a full grown human–which is ludicrous to basically anyone today and we will just never agree if thats the case.
I think if someone is there torturing a cow just for amusement then that is obviously sadistic and wrong, but if someone is raising them as a livelihood or to feed their family then I dont think its wrong to one day eat them.
Also this is coming from someone who loves animals and would care for injured crows and things. I’ve grown attached to chickens and named them–I still went and wrung out their neck when it was time for them to reach my family’s dinner plate.
Like you can raise animals humanely, and I believe you can do so sustainably in places where people have deemed unfeasible for planting crops.
Lmao. If I eat a kg of delicious flesh a week that’s only 15L?
Way better than I thought, tbh. Plus what about if I go in the woods and sustainably hunt an invasive species? I’ve helped the natural environment, and ethically sourced 200lbs of meat.
I feel like if you’d argue to make an invasive species less fertile I could maybe agree but you seem to be arguing to kill them with the ulterior motive of eating their corpse.
I think we have already started as a species. However, offing oneself is a lazy, fatalistic solution one should not recommend to anyone. Instead I’d suggest trying to find more peace and love in the universe and live happily ever after.
1kg of flesh requires 15.000L water, if you cared about water use you wouldn’t eat animals.
this doesn’t sound right
You say this yet you are made of flesh. Curious.
I eat ass. And I don’t use a fork and knife. I just get in there like a caveman.
You don’t care about the environment
You speak the truth!
Bruh and you are one of those annoying vegans that do nothing but tell everybody how terrible meat is.
I get it but people like you are just annoying as hell
To be fair, meat and AI have a lot in common. They’re useless and they make us unhealthy.
Yeah dude, food is “useless”
I mean, you’re taking 10kg of plant food and turning it into 1kg of meat food. That seems useless to Me, it seems like throwing away food, but maybe your math looks different.
Cow feed isn’t fit for human consumption so your entire argument here is flawed
You mean corn? People eat corn. You don’t have to grind it all up into a fibrous slop with zero safety regulations, you can just cook it safely.
Soy, too!
I just don’t like the hypocrisy.
I don’t like distraction from a topic.
Which was clearly not related to eating meat.
Given your vote count, seems I’m not alone.
Congrats on being annoying?
Hope you contribute something, somewhere, someday.
gl.
It was about water use, so it’s on topic.
Top kek #1 troll ytmnd.
If I eat people, it actually saves water.
While their marketing slogan of “eat the rich” is very good, it should be noted that it is not recommended as a sustained diet, as they are very often quite high in fats and full of preservatives and bad chemicals
I always wondered how lizard would taste.
I’m pretty sure a more useful measure of this is calories per unit of water than straight weight/mass. Which tbf is a metric meat will probably still be less efficient by.
There’s also like multiple factors of this, if you’re growing meat at industrial scale then you are farming crops specifically to feed the cattle so its doubly wasteful; but not everything is like beef, goats grazing on mountains where you can’t plant crops easily can feed a family with minimal labor, and they produce more than just meat. Ideally you wouldnt be raising cattle for just the meat.
Soy yields roughly 2,12 calories per liter of water, whereas flesh yields about 0,16 calories per liter of water.
Your other comments are more about animal agriculture and not about water usage (which is what this post is about) but to address all of your arguments I will say that I think it is wrong to cage, impregnate and kill others for the simple fact that they experience the world just like you and me in all the ways that matter to whether it’s ethical to be inflicting these things on them.
I think the line is kind of arbitrary where people care for animals in regards to how equal to treat them to humans. Like you can argue an ant also “experiences the world”, hell even coral are technically animals. I dont think that reasoning works unless you literally think every insect is equivalent to a full grown human–which is ludicrous to basically anyone today and we will just never agree if thats the case.
I think if someone is there torturing a cow just for amusement then that is obviously sadistic and wrong, but if someone is raising them as a livelihood or to feed their family then I dont think its wrong to one day eat them.
Also this is coming from someone who loves animals and would care for injured crows and things. I’ve grown attached to chickens and named them–I still went and wrung out their neck when it was time for them to reach my family’s dinner plate.
Like you can raise animals humanely, and I believe you can do so sustainably in places where people have deemed unfeasible for planting crops.
Right, what are your thoughts on hunting wild game?
I think my comment already covers that
Wrong because why would we have a permit to kill (wild) animals?
… What?
Not the OP, but in my opinion we don’t have any rights to kill animals, whether wild or not.
Lmao. If I eat a kg of delicious flesh a week that’s only 15L?
Way better than I thought, tbh. Plus what about if I go in the woods and sustainably hunt an invasive species? I’ve helped the natural environment, and ethically sourced 200lbs of meat.
Humans are an invasive species so that’s not the qualifier that justifies killing someone.
Historically it has always been very common to kill invasive humans.
Historically it’s been common to enslave humans so I don’t think whether something is common means it’s ethical.
Sorry, a species introduced by humans that’s turned out to be an ecological disaster.
Any thoughts on the morality there?
I feel like if you’d argue to make an invasive species less fertile I could maybe agree but you seem to be arguing to kill them with the ulterior motive of eating their corpse.
Yes, get rid of humans.
Fortunately we’ll wipe ourselves out of existence in the not too distant future.
Why don’t you start right now?
I think we have already started as a species. However, offing oneself is a lazy, fatalistic solution one should not recommend to anyone. Instead I’d suggest trying to find more peace and love in the universe and live happily ever after.