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___istyping@lemmy.today to Microblog Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 9 hours ago

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  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    7 hours ago

    No racial slurs in Don Quixote.

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      no slurs or it uses antiquated slurs we have forgotten about? or slurs we excuse because were common back them?

      I counted 160 “moro” in Don Quixote.

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        “Moro” is still commonly used and not considered a slur. It can be used incorrectly to refer to any muslin person but is not offensive in itself.

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          Just because it’s not considered offensive by white Spaniards does not mean it’s not offensive

          https://spanish.stackexchange.com/questions/29187/is-moro-a-racist-term#30243

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            So it’s more of an example of a normal term used to describe a group that becomes disliked and turns into a slur. Like “American” for example - neutral term that slowly becomes a slur.

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          it 100% is a slur, only people who disagree are the ones using them

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      Nor anything by Victor Hugo to my recollection.

      Sexist tho.

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        Interestingly, Don Quixote - very feminist. Cervantes clearly believed women should be able to decide for themselves.

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          Cervantes also handled a fake sequel to Don Quixote better than any author ever has or ever will.

          A fake Part II was released so Cervantes stole part of the plot and includes it in his own Part II which is broadly considered one of the best sequels of all time (to be clear that’s almost always included in the modern form of the novel)

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            Not just that, in his second part Don Quixote reads the fake sequel and shits all over it criticizing bad language and factual errors.

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        Should have seen all the anti-Norwegian bigotry in the first draft of Les Miserables, though 🫣😬

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          Do tell, please.

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            Sorry, I made it up as a joke…

            I haven’t read it yet (though the musical based on it is my favorite ever), but I’m pretty confident that there’s no mention of Norway or Norwegians in any version of Les Miserables 🤷🏻

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              So disappointed :(

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                Again, apologies for the letdown 🤷🏻

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                  Norwegia didn’t exist back then so … of course it wasn’t brought uo

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      Or Georg Büchner’s Lenz. I don’t remember most Shakespeare works being particularly racially charged, either. E.g. not a lot of non-British people in medieval Scotland (McBeth).

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        Forgot about Othello, huh?

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        Wasn’t Othello black?

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        Shakespeare has The Merchant of Venice, which comes with some antisemitism controversy

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