• skibidi@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    We’ll see these kinds of things in the next war. Russia and Ukraine would be there already if they had time to stockpile the drones rather than needing to deploy them as fast as they can be manufactured.

    With a few years of peace to build a reserve, there will more than enough drones and cheap spring-assisted launchers to serve as a terrifying new arm of MAD.

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      8 hours ago

      I’m not sure. Wars are won by costing the enemy’s money these days. So they are using drones on infrastructure, becuase that costs more than soldiers.

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        7 hours ago

        Regardless of how wars are won, they are prevented by altering the risk picture for the enemy.

        This is also why many smaller NATO states are scrambling to procure long-range missiles outside of US control. In a hybrid war with Russia, they would control the escalation ladder - I.e. be able to yeet some high explosives at powerplants and fuel depots - rather than relying on Washington to grant permission.

        Ukraine has been doing similar with the flamingo and other cruise ‘missile drone’ projects. Iran as well - look at their response to US aggression.

        The trajectory is clear, mass precision strike is cheap and corresponding defense is not. Having a stockpile of millions of flying problems for your enemy to consider is the best deterrent short of nuclear weapons.

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          5 hours ago

          Right, but I thought you were saying we would see these things to the posts drones that can follow humans through the forest, not the general drones for hitting nonhuman targets.

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            5 hours ago

            Ukraine built 8 million drones in the first half of 2026. Many different types, but the majority of them are designed to directly attack humans and light vehicles.

            The limiting factor in their deployment is the number of operators - currently the most common operating model is 1 drone per operator at a time, which means there are only so many drones in the air at the same time. These kinds of hunting algorithms will allow the scale of drone warfare to increase by loosening the operator bottleneck.

            There is force generation (recruitment, manufacturing, organization, etc.) and force employment (actually using those resources to achieve goals). Force generation for unmanned systems is already mature - again we are making millions of these things already - further advancement will come in force employment.

            And what a fresh hell that will be.

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                1 hour ago

                People attempting to take your life and land is quite motivating.

                “Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.”

                ― Winston Churchill

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              3 hours ago

              Fuck it, string me up on a cross then. If it means enduring world peace, sufficient climate action, and ecological restoration. Oh and also restorative justice, an end to poverty and hunger, and universal healthcare and education. Worldwide of course. Forever.

              I will however require binding and actionable guarantees first. Once the paperwork is in order I shall meet you in Gethsemane. Or shall we skip straight to Golgotha?

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                2 hours ago

                This is likely the most brilliant comment I will read today, or any time soon. I’d punch out for any one of those things. Even for a solid chance, no guarantees needed.

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                  59 minutes ago

                  Yeah, I thought about settling for less. Maybe one or two things. But then I thought “wait a minute, if I die then I can’t keep fighting for the rest. If I live I can fight on for a few more decades, maybe make a bigger difference.”

                  Maybe dying would be quicker and easier than living to fight for a better world, but knowing the snakes who would be doing the crucifying, if you leave them any room to wiggle out of their end of the bargain they’ll be shredding the contract before you’re done gasping out your last breaths.

                  So don’t sell yourself short! You’re worth everything, or no deal.