Every week, millions of Christians gather to worship and remember the tenets of the faith: belief in God, in Jesus Christ as his son and their savior, and in the Holy Spirit. Many utter the words of the Lord’s Prayer each week, and in doing so, ask that God forgive our sins, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

These are the ABCs of the Christian faith — and they should theoretically be an easy answer to offer if, like President Donald Trump, you’re asked what might happen when you die, and what you might do when Judgment Day comes.

And yet, when asked last week by Ross Douthat on 60 Minutes where Trump thinks he’ll go when he dies — and if he could forgive his political enemies if his salvation depended on it — Trump was brutally honest.

“Well, I’m a religious person, so in theory I go to heaven,” the president said. “I hope so. I don’t want to go to hell.”

Could he forgive opponents like former FBI Director James Comey and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi?

“Well, then I wouldn’t be real, would I? I mean, if I said to you, sure, the easy answer to that is ‘Oh, yes, I could forgive,’” Trump told Douthat. “The answer is no. I want to be honest, no.”

Even if God asked it?

“Before the judgment, no,” he said. “I do hate some of my enemies…I probably cannot do that, no, because I do hate some of my enemies and I always will.”

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        You’ve given no reason that the comparison is dumb. The comparison shows that it’s its stupid to claim that when it’s convenient for you, I have to think the concept of faking isn’t real, but any other time it is.

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          There’s a little more incentive to claim to be an adherent to a religion when the people of that religion believe in eternal damnation for non-believers.

          It’s just not comparable at all. Socialism isn’t a religion.

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            Ok so because you think Christians can trick God, faking isn’t real.

            Seriously what is the point in your comments? I absolutely know that if you thought about it for .5 seconds you’d see the point, instead you try to derail by saying what socialism is or isn’t and that has fuck-all to do with the point. Substitute any other belief you can fake and the point remains.

            I find it really annoying, this trend of “your comparison doesn’t work, there’s at least one difference between the two things.” Yeah no shit, why would I compare identical things? The point is to illustrate the relevance difference between the two. In this case, “despite whether the belief is one you like or not, it can be faked”. Obviously.

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              The point is to point out glaring weaknesses in bullshit arguments.

              You’re comparing a religion based on blind faith, with a political ideology. They’re different things.

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                Weird how you keep pretending that matters. Obviously you know that comparisons don’t require things to be identical. You obviously also know that you don’t get to decide what constitutes a similarity that matters. But keep pretending you don’t get it even after having it spelled out for you