“Jeffries didn’t even whip the vote,” one critic said about the House minority leader, who wants to be speaker. “This is why people want a stronger leader.”

As House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries seeks to become speaker when Democrats retake Congress in January, critics questioned his leadership Tuesday after the Republican-led lower chamber effectively blocked a bid to impeach Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth by just seven votes—an outcome that may have been averted if more Democrats showed up to vote.

The 211-204 procedural vote effectively torpedoed Congressman Thomas Massie’s attempt to impeach Hegseth by sending the outgoing Kentucky Republican’s resolution to the House Judiciary Committee, where it will likely gather dust during the remainder of the GOP-controlled congressional term.

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    1st stipulation still feels like a stretch but maybe you’re right. 2nd is plain wrong as there is always value in delivering justice.

    it wouldn’t be pointless but could be materially worse if the replacement was indeed more unhinged. but that’s as hypothetical as a successful impeachment so either way it’s speculative.

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      Sorry, what are you referring to when you say “delivering justice” if absolutely nothing would come out of an attempted impeachment right now? (This vote wasn’t a vote to impeach btw, and for that vote there’s no way republicans would bring it to the floor without their majority present).

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        i know how the process works. the House doesn’t impeach, they vote to refer to the Senate where Reps prosecute the case for impeachment and Senators vote on it.

        i don’t think we’re going to agree. i believe that the act of a impeachment that is foregone for failure still serves a talent purpose of opening the opportunity for investigation and signals to your constituents that you’re using what powers you have to try to serve their will. my reading of your take is that if an action produces anything other than its manifest purpose, it’s a failure.

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          I think the current admin needs to face real impeachments, real investigations, and real indictments instead of crowd pleasing nothing burgers, yes. And watching Dems get shat on from all sides at every opportunity even when it doesn’t make any sense is getting old and is why we’re in this situation in the first place.