Holy shit that site’s mobile experience is atrocious! On the page for 5 second before getting a full page model that didn’t load properly for 15 second, then 2/3 of the screen obstructed with ads after closing the modal…
Hmm weird, must just be you. Page loads fine on FF Android with uBlock Origin.
Lol yes with a proper adblocker it does. But that doesn’t discount the fact that the site did have 37 requests blocked for me
People should use adblockers. And sites just shoving ad and tracking code every which way suck
Try reader view.
He’s mayor. Is he on the phone with union leaders? Is there a set of demands? Are dates being selected? Has the city started stockpiling supplies?
No he didn’t.
You’re demanding elected officials organize the general strike?
That… Just… Isn’t how this works. Historically even verbal support is almost impossible to secure. This is a big deal, and you’re just trying to shut down any positive part of the message because it’s not being done for you?
You’re hilarious, Warlock. What is it that you think a mayor of a taxpayed city does, stuff his pockets and puffs hot air?
Tinidril is quite literally addressing how work gets done in a city. Why are you not running to stockpile food, water, and shelter for Chicagoans? They can sure use your help!
Can you describe to be the difference between a “taxpayed” city and a non-“taxpayed” city?
Go to any indigenous commune to find out how to live without yearly larceny.
Have you read the book “A Libertarian Walks Into a Bear”? You really need to read that book.
I have also read “a liberal hands the gun to the fascist everytime” like we saw thew do on November. Your point?
Well the one I’m talking about is a real book. What are you talking about?
Stockpiling… shelter.
Yes…
Your abode too limited?
And once my very small residence is stockpiled, I’m to… ship it to chicago?
You know, I’ll support you in your endeavor here, but I think I’m just going to go ahead and stick with organizing collective action.
organizing collective action
Tinidril: Is he on the phone with union leaders?Either you’ve never done what those words mean, or you truly do not know what city mayors do, day to day.
Tinidril was pointing Brandon Johnson hasn’t exemplified whatever you believe the above actually means.
Here, I’ll start.
Now, let’s setup a militia.Man it sure would be devastating to your credibility if you’d already linked to a document that outlines how chicago, under continuation policies ratified during Brandon Johnson’s administration, is already using hotels to house the homeless and refugee population. And then tried to use doing that as an example of positive actions that contribute to the problems facing the city, to try and highlight the failures of Brandon Johnson.
He may not have exemplified what I believe, but he literally is exemplifying what you believe.
you’re not wrong, but neither are they.
IMO a general strike plays right into Trumps hands. it’s also inevitable that the American public plays into his plans, it’s only a matter of when.
so his goal is to become supreme leader, right? How’s he allowed to never leave office ever? social disorder and national chaos.
how does that happen? well let’s take a look at what he’s doing right now.
- inciting the public to fight against ICE / homeland security by attacking American citizens on the streets and in their homes
- inciting the public by causing cost of living to increase through his tariffs
- inciting the public by handing over billions of dollars to a known corrupt administration and then using that relationship to undercut the American public(beef/soybeans)
- inciting the public by destroying a national landmark and symbol of the people only to replace it with a corporate funded eyesore
- inciting the public by keeping the government shutdown so that 40+ million Americans go without pay, food stamps, healthcare
everything this asshole does is to attack your psyche and compel you to have a violent reaction.
now play in a general strike. let’s say 5 million citizens do that for three weeks. those people will need to eat, and pay bills. what happens when poor unemployed people get desperate? they start to loot and what happens then? The military, who is conveniently deployed, steps in. then a national emergency is declared and we have “emperor Trump”.
I said it’s inevitable, right? even if we don’t strike now, he’s going to tank our economy so badly that it won’t matter if we strike or not. the above scenario will happen. probably during winter but just before spring. I give it another five months. just long enough to complete his 100k sqft ballroom bunker.
I’m sorry, I’m genuinely not sure what you’re saying here. How does the apparent inevitability of a confrontation between administration forces and the certain downfall of society have bearing on the potential counterproductivity of expecting elected officials to organize a general strike?
This feels like an unrelated expression of your feelings, and while I am truly sympathetic I’m also not sure what you’re trying to say here.
what I’m trying to say is that a general strike only works if the other side is negatively impacted by productivity loss.
the Trump administration not only doesn’t care if US operations cease functioning, they are willfully fueling it on multiple fronts. you could even say it’s their goal.
for an elected official to publicly call for a general strike, it means that either this is a poorly planned call to action or they are aiding the administration in accomplishing their goals. either way they are poor leaders that should probably be ignored.
there are better alternatives to strikes that don’t require the working class to take 100% of the risk.
What are those alternatives?
- continue protesting adding pressure at locations of where his cabinet members are, making it difficult for them to continue their crimes
- reduced production, if you made 100 widgets last week for work, only make 75 this week, then 50 next week, and so on
- degrade services to known sympathizers and administration cabinet members, you want your cheese Burger? no meat for you. want your oil changed? how about some transmission fluid instead of oil.
- continue documenting ongoing crimes against the public by the administration, make them loud and public. name and shame the perpetrators if possible.
there’s so much more we can organize before we cut off the power we already have in our hands.
become ungovernable, don’t become ungoverned.
edit: to add, if we can delay their grab for power long enough it only helps us to come up with a solution to remove him and his cronies from power. as we have seen, these greedy fucks are constantly at each others throats. we may only need to delay them long enough to tear each other apart, or at the very least force their financial backers to pull out because their “investment” has soured. like any private equity investment, they want results no matter the actions to take but if the plans never work out they will do anything to cut their losses before they lose everything.
Your alternatives to the working class taking 100% of the risk via a general strike are:
- The working class taking on 100% of the risk through organized collective action.
… Thank you for your contribution.
I didn’t say he needs to organize it, but if he isn’t connected to people who are organizing something then I think he’s just posturing. That’s not nothing, but it’s not calling for a general strike either, it’s more like gesturing at one.
If mayors can’t organize general strikes, who can? Union leaders are technically not allowed to do so, and could end up losing their unions. Who else has that kind of authority?
I didn’t say he needs to organize it
In the first comment you’re asserting that for you to acknowledge his support for a general strike as a “call” for one, he would have to be organizing it. I appreciate you’ve walked that back to him being connected to the organizers, but you’re just assuming he’s not and rejecting worker/administration solidarity on those grounds.
In the US, the law surrounding this is predictably draconian - but in the effort of not spending pages about the technicalities, an elected official serving the public trust is even more explicitly bound to not organize a labor strike. If it’s a valid excuse you’re willing to accept for the union leaders, why is it not an excuse for him as well? While unions like UAW cannot call for a general strike because of the NLRA/NLRB, a politician can call for one without explicitly organizing it and skirt the regulations thereof.
He is doing what he can publicly, and only arguably within the bounds of the law. It might be worth examining why you aren’t supportive here, especially given that in other recent comments you’ve (edit: arguably) called for a major public figure to rally a general strike. That’s what he’s doing here, but… why is that not good enough for you?
God forbid that someone didn’t go exactly as far as you want them to.
I didn’t even say how far I wanted him to go. He just didn’t go as far as advertised.
you’re getting downvoted, but you’re not wrong.
political leaders lead. this was a threat by an elected official that has no way to back it up and is asking his citizens to protect the city he governs.
this political theater is dangerous and puts people more at risk by potentially damaging their support network.
think what you want about me, but you’ll remember my words after the general strike fails to accomplish… what did he say the goal was again?? oh yeah, “sticking it to the man”
I agree that something must be done, but a call for a general strike won’t work against this administration.
Came here to say this, and the fact he needs to start arming citizens, since his cops are fine terrorizing protesters.
