Amazing how they’ll spend all that money to protect their comfort and exploitation but NOT just PAY THEIR TAXES at a reasonable rate?? They cannot see how this is a brain sickness and their money has made them disordered hoarders and a drain on society. People would like them if they just put the money back into the system that enabled them to extract it in the first place, but they don’t understand the concept of enough. Frankly, they need to be saved from their money just as much as we need to be saved from their greed.
As Mamdani has said, some of them are literally spending more money than he would tax them which just shows how poisoned they are.
Not poisoned enough IMHO.
I had to read this six times before it would stick to my brain. I literally couldn’t believe it on some deep, fundamental level.
“Poisoned” is right. I’d love to hear what psychology is at work here, because it ain’t a matter of basic math.
Just remember that a lot of the money that these people have has been stolen from the people who have worked for them and their companies whom they’ve grossly underpaid, some of them for literally decades.
I can’t forget. Wage theft is the most common crime today, and the same criminals have the gall to point at poor people stealing diapers for their children who are hungry cause the wages aren’t livable IF they even get paid. It’s sick and it has to change.
The “you have mettled, Mr Beale” rant has a lot of truth to it in the sense that it reveals their actual motivations.
Capital possesses men like a demon.
billionaire philanthropist
Has there ever been a more bullshit term in the entirety of the English language?
The poorest billionaire could give away 90% of their fortune, and still earn more a year through interest on the remaining wealth than a normal person will in their entire life.
So no.
Billionaires still don’t get that their fear and outrage is a ringing endorsement for someone like Mamdani. Every dollar they spend implies many more dollars available to be collected by the city. Their best strategy would have been utter indifference. I guess now we know who has a terrible poker face.
It gotten to the point every time a see a political add and it’s like
“Do you want puppies to be happy? Then vote yes on prop 106b to stop people from killing puppies with chainsaws”
So I go look it up and it’s like “106b passing would mean Elon musk can personally kick us in the balls every morning… I feel like that advertisement was a bit misleading… he nearly got me that time… why does he want to kick me in the balls so bad? It’s getting weird “
“He’s spending more money than that I would even tax him… Habibi, I don’t even want that much” - Zorhan Mamdani on Bill Ackerman’s efforts to buy the election.
billionaires arent exactly known for thier subtlety, they are all narcissists that require sycophants to surround them.
The reign of terror in France led to Napoleon becoming emperor. It was not even a short term solution, let alone long term. It would probably be cathartic, but I don’t think it would repair democracy.
You should read about Napoleon. He was actually a pretty decent ruler. This is by no means an endorsement of authoritarian rule “so long as it’s the right ruler”. But when you look at the what existed before and what came immediately after, I believe he’s unfairly maligned.
My impression is he didn’t know when to stop. He could have had a much longer lasting rule of a decent sized territory, but he never stopped spending tens of thousands of soldiers lives on expansion.
The Reign of Terror didn’t lead to Napoléon beeing emperor, there has been at least 5 years of another regime between the two
“We’ve tried encouraging violence online, but it’s not working to start a revolution and ruin america? What else can I do boss?”
What a joke.
The thing I think a lot of people miss when talking about how harshly billionaires oppose him, is that the billionaires are not afraid of a socialist, or a democratic socialist, or paying 2% more in taxes. Not just that anyway.
They are afraid of having elected officials they can’t buy. If you’re a billionaire, it doesn’t matter if Cuomo, or Adams wins. You may have a preference, but you can “donate to” either of those guys. They’ll take the money.
Taxes are nothing compared to the way they fear public support for ethical, economic-populism.
The irony is they could have gotten rid of him for a fraction of the cost, by donating to him and when asked about it after the fact saying they’d “come to an understanding” with his campaign. That would erode trust faster than all the racist mailers money can buy.
It is entirely about control to them and making everyone beneath them their bitch. If you could logically argue that for 1% of their networth they can turn the planet into a paradise and have a 100% approval rating among the entire world and people would be building statues of them and singing songs of praise centuries after they die they would still say no to that. Because everything has to be about them being in control and ordering everyone and everything.
Ooh, it’s in a week. I’m excited!
I’m not even American. Nor do I plan to step foot in the US until the current crisis is over. But growing up with movies and shows set in what is probably an overly romanticized version of NYC and then actually visiting the city briefly a few years ago, it still seems like such an amazing place. Perhaps not for the many, many New Yorkers who can’t afford it (which Mamdani is trying to fix after all), but in general… You just walk around and behind every corner there’s something interesting. No need to go to the tourist traps, because the entire city is cool and so alive.
Before a bunch of things happened in my life that tied me down for the next 2 decades or so, I wanted to see if I could get a tech job in NYC. Financially it doesn’t seem as great as the Bay Area, but I like the dense city with the subway and everything. Envisioned myself living in a fancy apartment complex that has its own gym and pool one day lol
New Yorker here. Visiting here is cool because you can go back where you came from and live in a normal neighborhood, living here, not so much. There is a lot of political and real estate corruption which has caused renting prices to skyrocket. It is a bad financial decision to actually try to live here because you’ll never own a home (minimum house costs $1.5M). Most everyone who isn’t rich or living with family, is on some form of welfare or assistance just to meet rent, whether it’s NYCHA, Section 8 or piling up 5 roommates in a 3 bedroom apartment just to have a normal rent cost. And even then, you’ll likely only be in your spot 3 maybe 5 years because the rent goes up every year until you eventually get priced out and have to leave. Healthcare workers are leaving. Professors are leaving. Everyone even the homegrown New Yorkers are leaving for other states like Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, etc.
Lots of store fronts are just abandoned because businesses have packed up and left too. There’s homeless everywhere. Drug addicts and mentally ill aimlessly roam the streets. It’s BAD. The problems here are endless all due to political corruption among the local government. The city misspends and washes tax money and has drained the city dry. The subway is literally crumbling apart still running on 1960s and older machinery. The rich have sucked this city dry along with the life and culture it once had. Rich white people and Jews are buying up all the real estate and pushing Black and Brown people out by tearing down their homes, rebuilding and then jacking up the rents very high in historic, iconic areas like Harlem, Brooklyn and now the Bronx, so the Black and Brown people can’t move back in.
Jobs you can forget it. Job fair lines are wrapped down several blocks of unemployed people looking for work and food pantries have a crowd all the time. I’ve seen a lot of people dumpster-diving as well. I could keep going on with the sad states of affairs here.
Everything is just in a horrible state right now for New Yorkers. I voted today and cast my vote for Mamdani, because I really hope he can turn this around. We are tired.
Oh yeah, I fully believe you that there are a lot of issues, particularly for the displaced minorities and poorer people in general. I’ve looked at the rent prices on StreetEasy and they do NOT look appealing to someone who works even a decent job, much less those working low-end jobs.
But also, as I said in a response to another person who commented, I would’ve only moved to NYC in particular for a senior level position at a big tech company (which I hate with a passion, but one can swallow their pride for 5 years for a good amount of money). In fact I would not move to the US in general, even bumfuck nowhere, for less than 6 figures and a city like NYC or SF I would only consider for at least 200-300k. The market for software engineers has changed and it’s no longer as feasible to grind oneself into a job like that, so I’m not too mad at my loss of freedom of movement (AKA: I have a child and my ex would never allow us to move anywhere). Also I don’t think I’d ever buy a house in NYC myself. It was always a “move in for 5-10 years, grind for money, enjoy the social life, get the hell back to Europe before I’m old and need socialized healthcare again, spend my later years travelling cheaper countries” kinda dream.
I hope things get better for you in particular and NYC in general. I still truly think it could be one of the most awesome cities in the world to live in if it was more affordable.
how can you be so deluded?
Deluded about what in particular? That NYC can be kinda awesome, or that I could afford a nice place there?
It was a bit of a 6-7 year plan, which I started on before the job market for software engineers went to shit. I wouldn’t have moved to the US for anything less than a senior position at a big tech company anyway. At least 300k total comp annually, otherwise I was gonna stay in the EU where I already am.
Of course, the job market changed and my own life circumstances changed too. Now it’s not on my radar anymore.
Honestly it’s probably for the best. 300k/yr (USD) is closer to Sr. Director or Leadership-level money. And maybe that’s you? But you’re not going to see anything close to that as a senior manager or programmer. Then there’s the work-life balance; unless you can afford to live in one of the five buroughs, a commute from outside NYC may make it all very unattractive. Also, I don’t know what companies you were looking into, or how much professional drive you have, but a lot of the high paying jobs there are in finance (wall street). These are incredibly high-pressure positions for the money.
I know that tech jobs don’t pay the same in the EU, but you may have access to more perks and possibly a higher-quality of life. It really depends on what you value more. Honestly, while I can’t advise you realize that NYC dream you have/had, it may be for the best.
I will say that I worked for one week on a business trip in NYC once. I was able to comfortably walk from the train station, to my hotel, and to the shared office-space we leased for the event. It was easy to romanticize being in such a lively place, all within mere minutes of where I was sleeping. Sadly, there was no way to achieve that work/life balance in that place without at least tripling my income. However, it did make me think about how dissatisfied I was in suburbia, and I wound up moving to a small city as a compromise.
This just shows how much they want to keep living and working in NYC. So he can raise their taxes to the same amount they would pay in New Jersey and they will stay, because they want to do business and go to Broadway shows.
Life for poor people might get slightly better. Rich people might not even notice 2% more taxes paid but the person serving them at a Michelin star restaurant might have a real smile on their face instead of a fake one.
Fuck that. Kick them out. Tax them until they have to live like human beings if they want to stay in new york. If they’re the enemy, and they are, he should treat them like it.
These scum should be punished for buying elections. And, you know; everything else they do.
Zohran shouldn’t increase their taxes too much. If he can raise it this tiny unnoticeable amount and get lower rents, free busses, cheaper childcare, and lower food prices then it will show other cities and states what they can do with taxing these greedy assholes. Then in the next federal election cycle someone like him can come in and push for a bigger tax rise federally for these robber barons. Give them tax hikes or give them a one way trip to the guillotine basket, suddenly taxes won’t seem like such a bother.
Fuck that. Show what he can get for people nailing them to the wall and bleeding them like they bleed us.
It’s fucking new York; they won’t all leave. And if they do it’s still a win.
And its not like they’ll treat a more moderate move like less of an attack than fully raiding the banks taking theironey out in gold and disbanding the nypd¹
¹it turns out I complain about the LAPD enough my autocorrect just turns all cops into them, and I didnt catch it.
Let them waste their money
Lauder, a Republican, has long been a financial supporter of Cuomo. He is the president of the World Jewish Congress.
Those two sentences alone say a lot more about Cuomo, power brokering, and the inherent corruption at the heart of the system than the leadership of either major party wants you to know.
What’s the matter with the second sentence though?
World Jewish Congress is a Zionist organization and as such actively and reflexively supports the genocide and other atrocities of the fascist apartheid regime of Israel.
Well damn, fuck them 10x. I guess I shouldn’t have assumed anything benign if they’re associated with American Republicans.
He needs to do everything he can to nail their balls to two different horses running opposite directions.
I think their dicks should go one way and balls another…
Adding a third and fourth horse for their dicks¹ is totally reasonsonable, but I feel like there are better non-horse-related solutions here.
¹in front and behind
Why not just have one horse pull their balls in one direction and their penis in another? While they are strapped naked to a bench.
I think the balls should be horse-ripped separately.
That’s not the last ditch. Kirking him is in their repertoire.
It’s in ours too
In theory, I guess. But when’s the last time that sort of thing actually happened in the U.S.? Even perpetrators of “kirkings” of right-wingers are usually either infighting right-wingers themselves, or are just nutjobs with some motive other than politics entirely (e.g. impressing Jodie Foster).
…2 michigan state reps were assassinated in their homes just this year
First of all, it was
Massachusetts(edit: damn, I apparently can’t tell m-states apart either), not Michigan (although some articles claim he was planning to target some Michigan politicians too).Second, that’s proving my point, not refuting it. The assertion I was challenging was that it was in “our” (i.e. leftist, or at least liberal) repertoire too, but what you cited was the common case of a right-winger targeting progressives, not the other way around.
It was state representative Melissa Hortman who was assassinated and she was from Minnesota not Massachusetts.
ah, my bad. i thought you were making a general statement about political violence in america not actually reaching the politicians themselves
The CEO of UnitedHealthcare and a CEO of BlackStone would like a word with you the day after Halloween.
Wasn’t the Blackstone one a mistake? The guy was looking for the NFL floor of building, not the head of the real estate fund…
Other way around. The CEO was the target. Media just tried to throw everyone off the scent, seeing how popular Luigi became. Something something “will not be televised”
Either way, the only thing stopping it from happening more is the will to carry it out. If they start doing it so can we.
Unfortunately we’re only there to take the blame. So if Kirk goes down, it was a twice removed cousin who had a friend whose step father was a furry that one halloween, so obviously trans. And if a judges house burns down, it was a trans person who dressed up as a MAGA idiot with a note written in fence paint on a new box of bullets.
That was a load of horseshit. I’ll never believe that story.
This is the one assassination that I know would be a real inside job. Kirk was killed by a nutcase groyper, and whoever killed Thompson was pissed off at the ‘healthcare’ system (and no it wasn’t Luigi).
Don’t agree with you on the nutcase groyper part. Unless they infiltrated Turning Point USA deeply, had their own security guards watching Kirk, some of Kirks best friends were double agents, and they figured out how to inject Kirk with the same stuff Wolverine got and made his bones a miracle that can stop a .30-06 bullet.
they are cartoonishly evil so it’d make sense that their plans look like this… but waaaaay dumber
Kirking?
As in Charlie
Epsteining is more appropriate
Epstein was killed in shadows. You Kirk someone out in public.
If Mamdani isn’t planning on running an ad hilighting how all these rich fucks are piling on against him… that’s a big missed opportunity
what does the article mean by “x gave y $ to ‘fix the city’”? it’s in each of the billionairs listed
Fix the City, Inc., is an independent expenditure committee (IE) organized under New York law that was initially established to support the mayoral candidacy of Andrew Cuomo and expanded its mission in June 2025 to oppose the election of Zohran Mamdani.
Their website is straight up ad-hominem propaganda against Mamdani.
What? He sold out faster than you can say SSanders.
Beyond “just read the article,” let’s have a little bit more “just read the actual headline.”
I think you didn’t understand.
What I mean is he has turned his coat really fast, done everything to please the millionaires and genociders (including keeping this ghoul), but it’s not good enough for them apparently.He’s keeping Tisch as part of a deal with Hochul to get funding for free buses, right? That didn’t seem like turncoat to me, it seemed like…you know, just basic politics.
In fairness, I haven’t heard much about Tisch overall. I don’t know what her thing is.
I don’t know what her thing is.
Then you shouldn’t have an opinion.
He’s keeping Tisch as part of a deal with Hochul to get funding for free buses, right?
What’s a little genocide when we can get free busses, right?
As long as it doesn’t bother us and we can get back to brunch. Anyway, never trust a Democrat.Then you shouldn’t have an opinion.
Cool. Yeah, that thought process has never harmed dialogue and discussion before. 🙄
I’ve looked up all the information I can find about Tisch, and she seems pretty bland and boring, as far as police commissioners go. I don’t see anything about any scandals or problematic public statements. She’s been in the role for not quite a year, and it doesn’t seem like she’s made any particular splash, good or bad. If Mamdani has to have a police commissioner, it seems like he could certainly do worse; the NY Post, at least, doesn’t seem to like her very much. She opposes the National Guard being deployed to NYC.
But if you have some kind of secret knowledge, please do tell.
What’s a little genocide when we can get free busses, right? As long as it doesn’t bother us and we can get back to brunch.
Boy, I don’t know why people aren’t more on board with our platform, what with such welcoming people as you on our side.
I’m not saying anything about brunch. I’m saying that Mamdani wants to remake New York to help normal people, and if he has to make deals with people to do so, he should probably do so in ways that cause as little harm as possible. This seems to fit that bill.
Your mention of “genocide” is interesting. I haven’t seen any evidence that she’s made any statements about Palestine at all; is that the genocide you’re talking about?
Anyway, never trust a Democrat.
I’m not. I’m saying that this doesn’t seem to represent any “betrayal” or “turncoat” behavior, at least not yet. It looks completely reasonable, and you don’t seem to be inclined to provide any evidence to the contrary.
I’ve looked up all the information I can find about Tisch, and she seems pretty bland and boring,
right, how convenient.
You could listen to its speech at the ADL before its fascist masters for example.
But you obviously prefer not to so you can live with defending a genocidal monster out of deliberate ignorance.
you people disgust me.
Don’t replyYep, that speech is pretty terrible. I wish I had found that the first time around. Thanks for pointing me to it.
I prefer to be correctly informed, and to base my opinions on reality. Even though you decided that your comment had to have needless insults in it, I appreciate that you at least provided that. Nope, you’re right, she definitely looks like a terrible choice. Concerning to learn about that.
EDIT: I posted that after watching a short clip of her remarks at the ADL. I have since watched the whole thing, and it…isn’t much better. For those who haven’t seen it, she’s doing the same thing that politicians and news outlets around the country are doing: conflating pro-Palestine messaging (and even anti-Netanyahu messaging) with anti-Jewish sentiment, and calling it “vile.” She stops short of calling it illegal, but she does imply that she’s willing to legally harass pro-Palestinian protestors.
aaaaand another one:
Ooof. Now, getting endorsements from self-proclaimed zionists, on the other hand, I don’t like. Yikes.
I’m confused how this is getting news attention. NYC is irrelevant to the world. It’s its own bubble.
They make nothing, no one stays there beyond a decade, and their political influence is inconsequential.
I mean one more nye performance by j lo in their trashy time square and ill poop your pants.
Now go get.spaghetti
NYC is a massive political arena, and if Mamdani has a successful administration, and his policies work, then it is a valid proof of concept of Socialist/Progressive Policies.
And nothing terrifies them more.
New York City is, and has been for a very long time, one of the most iconic and influential cities in the world.
Ok define the influence and what it gets ny or the usa.
Cultural powerhouse?
NYC is irrelevant to the world
Yeah, its not like the New York Stock Exchange or NASDAQ is located in NYC or anything…
or the fucking UN
The New York Stock Exchange does not prove New York is uniquely strong. New York benefits from hosting it, but the power comes from the global market, not from the location.
It is just a place where companies come to trade. The success belongs to the businesses and investors, not the building or the city.
The exchange is digital now, so the trades could happen anywhere with fast internet. If the NYSE moved to another city, the same companies and money would follow.
Again…New York benefits from hosting it, but the power comes from the global market, not from the location.
The exchange is digital now, so the trades could happen anywhere with fast internet. If the NYSE moved to another city, the same companies and money would follow.
this shows an extreme misunderstanding of how a large stock exchange works
this isn’t just “fast internet”… this is significant amounts of dedicated fibre being run to offices and data centres as close as possible to the building, microwave links, and a whooooole lot of systems being build specifically around known latencies and locations
The distinction you’re making between the “real” city and the things that happen to be hosted there isn’t real. This same line of reasoning can be used to declare literally any place irrelevant in any context. For example Beijing is irrelevant to the world, it’s only influential because that’s where the Chinese capital happens to be hosted. It’s silly. New York’s global influence comes from the sum of all of the things that just happen to be hosted there, just like anywhere else important.
If a plate of spaghetti is what people want, the kitchen it came from is just a container. You can move the same recipe to a different kitchen and the dish still satisfies the same hunger. The restaurant does not create the value. The spaghetti does.
In the same way, the power of markets and industries does not depend on New York. The companies, the capital, the investors, and the trades are the real substance. They could operate successfully in another city because the value is generated by the economic activity itself, not by the street address. The spaghetti is what feeds people. The kitchen is replaceable.
You’re still using the same weak analogy. This dubious logic can be used to deny the importance of literally any location on earth.
In the same way, the power of markets and industries does not depend on New York. The companies, the capital, the investors, and the trades are the real substance. They could operate successfully in another city
So why don’t they? Answer the question. I’m sure many other places would want to be the financial capital or the world. Why aren’t they?
Financial centers are not holy ground. They are habits that formed because of historical momentum, not because the soil under Wall Street produces capital.
London used to be the unquestioned financial center of the world. Before that, Amsterdam. Before that, Venice. None of those cities lost intelligence or charm. The center moved because technology and incentives changed.
The New York Stock Exchange is a brand name. The actual computers executing trades sit in New Jersey. A huge amount of financial work has already shifted to cities like London, Hong Kong, Singapore, and to digital platforms that do not care what city they are in. People stay in New York because of existing connections and infrastructure. That is convenience, not destiny.
Claiming New York is inherently responsible for the success of global finance is like saying the Oscars create good movies because the awards happen in Los Angeles. If the event moved to Cleveland tomorrow, the films would still be made by filmmakers, not sidewalks.
Now make an argument worth arguing against.
Has anybody ever told you you’re head is up your own ass? This is all great stuff for a poetic writing class but there isn’t even a hint of a coherent argument in this.
Financial centers are not holy ground. They are habits that formed because of historical momentum, not because the soil under Wall Street produces capital.
Cool, and irrelevant.
London used to be the unquestioned financial center of the world. Before that, Amsterdam. Before that, Venice. None of those cities lost intelligence or charm. The center moved because technology and incentives changed.
True, and also irrelevant.
Claiming New York is inherently responsible
Explain what this means in this context. Clearly. Bonus points for considering the very obvious first-order implications of what you’re saying.
NY is very important in the world of politics. They gave us Donald Trump, Rudy Gulliani, Mike Bloomberg, Andrew Cuomo…
That’s a small argument bro. Where were the Wright Brothers and einstein born? Surely it should give us more like them.
Except it doesnt. Where a person’s story begins is step one.
Millions of people in New York do not achieve that level of national prominence. The place alone doesn’t guarantee it.
You’re right. It also gave us people like Epstein, Diddy, and Harvey Weinstein.
And where are you based in?
An east coast city for which I dont get bragadocious.
no; you just tear other people down when you see them getting something you don’t have
