If the options in November 2028 come down to Newsom vs Trump (or whoever is his puppet), I’m still voting for Newsom. I won’t be happy about it, but if we can’t get a real progressive through the primaries, I’m still voting against the GOP and for the non-GOP candidate with the best chance of winning.
If the dems think a conservative candidate win, they will ratfuck progressives again, which is how we got Trump both times.
We need to make it absolutely clear that under no circumstances can the DNC let a conservative win the primary because they will lose the general. We did “yes, we know he sucks, but this is the most important election ever” with Biden, and he showed an entire generation that the dems are not an effective means to enacting positive social change, giving us back Trump.
He platforms Charlie Kirk on his podcast, and his record for how he treats policy in relation to prisons is pretty shit. In 2022 he vetoed a bill that would end indefinite solitary confinement because, ya know, that makes sense. He’s a self-important loud-mouth who’s doing funny things in regards to attack Trump but absolutely is not what the US needs right now. They to yank that needle to the left and all they’re being offered is centrists and conservatives who don’t like to stir the pot even while fascism is fully present in their country.
Agreed that sicking the cops on homeless people is bad policy, and doing that in response to a court ruling without plan to actually help people is egregious. Does seem like he took an opportunity to disguise a NIMBY directive behind a court ruling.
Transphobe though? What he diverges on the specific issue of trans women/girls in gender protected sports divisions and we just have to throw out everything else he’s supported or signed laws for trans and gay rights in the last 20 years?
Nothing new exists… yeah Ronald Reagan is objectively worse than governer moonbeam but brown picked up the same mantle. Hypothetical example newsome runs for pres, wins and he paints the wall white but doesn’t tear it down.
Nah he’s not an overt fascist, not the same as Donny in that way, but he is not an answer to fascism either. We need radical change
Gavin Newsom is a PoS just like Donny. American democrats will do anything aside from fight against Trump’s fascist regime.
All they can muster is some tweets.
I’d argue the opposite: satire and humor are the best way to get people on your side and motivated.
What’s the joke here then? Cause it isn’t funny.
In all likelihood, he’s going to be running for President against Trump in 2028, what are some reasons that I shouldn’t I vote for Newsom?
I suppose Newsom may win the presidency in 2028, and then caretake the country while doing the minimum for 4 to 8 years.
Just in time for another gop to win after that, and drive the USA to the brink of ruin even more than Trump
Back and forth. Same pattern the last two decades or more
Thing is once Trump’s gone the GOP will be in crisis. The movement is not about ideals but the man himself
Fascist movements do not end when a leader goes.
And while the gop will be splintered, they will coalesce, eventually, in time to elect someone we will curse in the 2030s
Depends on when the leader dies and how the movement splinters.
Because Germany famously remained Nazis after Hitler killed himself.
There was that other thing at about the same time …uhhh… oh yes - losing the war…which may have had something to do with it.
I would back a progressive candidate as hard as you can in the primary if possible.
Newsom has a similar vibe problem as Harris where people outside of California don’t really know them or like them much.
Personally I say fuck anyone from CA or NY (except AOC) we need a candidate from somewhere else more down to earth.
If the options in November 2028 come down to Newsom vs Trump (or whoever is his puppet), I’m still voting for Newsom. I won’t be happy about it, but if we can’t get a real progressive through the primaries, I’m still voting against the GOP and for the non-GOP candidate with the best chance of winning.
If the dems think a conservative candidate win, they will ratfuck progressives again, which is how we got Trump both times.
We need to make it absolutely clear that under no circumstances can the DNC let a conservative win the primary because they will lose the general. We did “yes, we know he sucks, but this is the most important election ever” with Biden, and he showed an entire generation that the dems are not an effective means to enacting positive social change, giving us back Trump.
Are there any progressives you are hoping will run? I’m not familiar with most politicians, would be helpful to know who’s worth learning more about.
He platforms Charlie Kirk on his podcast, and his record for how he treats policy in relation to prisons is pretty shit. In 2022 he vetoed a bill that would end indefinite solitary confinement because, ya know, that makes sense. He’s a self-important loud-mouth who’s doing funny things in regards to attack Trump but absolutely is not what the US needs right now. They to yank that needle to the left and all they’re being offered is centrists and conservatives who don’t like to stir the pot even while fascism is fully present in their country.
Be realistic. A leftist has no chance to get elected in the USA. A centrist is the best you can do.
Is that why Zohran Mamdani has been blowing every centrist in New York out of the water?
Just like Donny.
You’ve got to be kidding me. I grew up in California during Newsom and Harris’ rise to power.
As uninspiring as they are, this approach has highlighted Trump’s ridiculous communication style in a way that has not been challenged to date.
We can dive into actual policy if you want.
Nobody has challenged Trump’s communication style before? Really??
A sitting governor doing carbon copy satire of Trump’s exact style? No that has not been done before to my knowledge.
Why in gods name would we need this? How is this helping? Can we not just be fucking serious for a second here?
Y’all were serious and Trump got elected via memes in 2016 lol
Yes, 4chan was the swing vote.
The_donald tho.
Because being a sane adult isn’t a winning proposition since people who vote are also idiots?
Trying to go high and be an adult has accomplished exactly dick in 10 years.
He’s a transphobe that would gladly put homeless people in a woodchipper.
Agreed that sicking the cops on homeless people is bad policy, and doing that in response to a court ruling without plan to actually help people is egregious. Does seem like he took an opportunity to disguise a NIMBY directive behind a court ruling.
Transphobe though? What he diverges on the specific issue of trans women/girls in gender protected sports divisions and we just have to throw out everything else he’s supported or signed laws for trans and gay rights in the last 20 years?
The thing is Transpeople in Sports is a distraction and by humoring it as a real issue he is playing to the cons
He literally invited Charlie Kirk to his podcast and agreed with him about transgender ideology being a problem. That’s clear cut transphobia.
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“The same as Donny” is the issue.
Something something California uber alles
Nothing new exists… yeah Ronald Reagan is objectively worse than governer moonbeam but brown picked up the same mantle. Hypothetical example newsome runs for pres, wins and he paints the wall white but doesn’t tear it down.
Nah he’s not an overt fascist, not the same as Donny in that way, but he is not an answer to fascism either. We need radical change
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