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    Did the leaders suffer? Was it recorded? A lot of us would pay to watch that.

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    Donald J Trump hasn’t anal probed me, or harvested my organs, or put me into a slave labor camp on Omnicron Persei 5.

    Yet.

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    Humans then explain the aliens their situation on earth

    The aliens: “Holy Viltrum… listen humans… we were actually gonna take over your and enslave you but it seems like you went through worse than we did…”

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      are there any stories (real/fictional) where a relatively brutal invader was less brutal than the people they ousted and somehow they are considered liberating heroes, and the public is ok with their repressive policies because they are better than before. and the leader is trying to keep the evil lotd vibes going on but he’s beloved by the public.

      feel like it would make for great comedy.

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    That would be amazing. Unfortunately, there will very likely be no aliens to do it. We’ll have to do it ourselves.

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    Steven Erikson wrote a novel called Rejoice: A Knife in the Dark, which follows a similar premise, where politicians and billionaires are rendered completely impotent by aliens or more precisely alien AI. It is a fascinating read, imo.

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    “Cheers. Can you zip back in about a 100 years and do it again?”
    “… Ok, but why?”
    “See, we humans, well, we really are a bunch of fucking morons.
    Every hundred years or so we do the same moronic things. War, fascism, Nazis etc. It’d be great if you could do us a solid and revisit every 100 years or so. Also, kill all the billionaires on your way out. Nice one.”

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      Tbf if we had ever made any attempt to not immediately put the fascists/slavers right back in power as soon as possible, and maybe kill them instead, things might not have gone this poorly.

      What im saying is: end some family lines this time.

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        this will sadly still create power vacuums that the first moron who thirsts for power would leap at :(

        just killing isn’t the solution, we need an already oiled up machine ready to take that space the instant they’re gone, you’d have maybe a week to figure all things out before people start grumbling about how things were better duing [regime] because at least they knew how to handle power

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          Power vacuum

          This is a concept that is treated as universal, and its really not. Its treated as unavoidable even in situations where it could occur, and it’s really not.

          And in fact, killing all the hyper-authoritarians (or at least all of that kind of authoritarian-the irredeemable monster kind) and dismantling everything they built is the best way to stop that.

          I find this phrase is almost without exception deployed to justify keeping momentum on horrible shit. It’s a massive red flag, almost a logical fallacy in itself.

          just killing

          Nope, gotta destroy their institutions and hunt down survivors, dispossess their heirs completely, at minimum, but i think if they’re old enough to talk they’re old enough to hang in this case. The harm of letting them live is too great.

          we need an already

          Yeah thats optimal, but humans do actually have pretty good instincts for that. Like, shockingly good. Enough to bridge major gaps.

          grumbling about

          It’s usually tjose fuckers or their heirs doing the grumbling. Kill them; it wont be an issue.

          I can’t help but notice you’re broadly suggesting we should avoid the result we’ve gotten every time by nit behaving too differently than we have every time in the past. I think we should try something different.

          To be clear: i don’t think you shoukd exterminate every enemy. Just the kind that are monsters.

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            And in fact, killing all the hyper-authoritarians (or at least all of that kind of authoritarian-the irredeemable monster kind) and dismantling everything they built is the best way to stop that.

            In theory yes, the problem is you can’t identify them all ahead of time

            Also, your false positive rate will make you a monster too

            And focusing on family lines instead of malicious ambition will mean you’ll kill a lot of people who opposed their own evil family members as collateral damage, people who might even be the best allies you could have to spot others with malicious intent because they’ve seen it up close

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      Read the 2nd book. It was fine, there’s some really silly dallying going on with the main character through the whole first half. And the Tri-solarans can’t seem to figure out how powerful or helpless they are to kill him.

      I think the most interesting thing I took away was that feeling people in other countries get when they read books written from an American perspective. The books got a real “Chinese Exeptionalism” vibe. I have now witnessed how annoying that is

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        I was really referring to the first book, in which a character invites the Trisolarians to conquer Earth because she’s pissed off at her own government.

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    I honestly didn’t read past the first part and just thought “everything is already fucked, you did us a favour by freeing us from those old sacks” and then read the next 2 comments and was like oh it goes on…

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      I mean it starts off with “we have killed your leaders”, to which my immediate thought is “oh sweet, good job aliens,” and then it just keeps making sense from there.

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        Yeah I know right? It’s like, bros you already did so much! You didn’t have to do all that - but we sure as fuck appreciate it.