• vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      5 hours ago

      “good catch! That’s a very astute observation. Here’s a bunch of paragraphs explaining (incorrectly) how you’re wrong!”

    • KumaSudosa@feddit.dk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      4 hours ago

      Just like next quarter’s finance numbers for USA will coincidentally just all the great stuff Trump has achieved!

  • CubitOom@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    6 hours ago

    The race to have the magic box that tells you lies that you want to hear while also consuming incredible amounts of resources…why is this a race again?

    • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 hour ago

      The telling lies part is not good, but I think the dream of AI is a servant (or slave) with unlimited potential that can solve, until now, unsolvable problems. Cure for cancer, sure that will be $10k a pill. Eternal life? Sure that will be 1 million dollars a years for all eternity. Robot army to protect you? Top of the list.
      Question I have is, is the AI we see the same AI the teck bros see? Is there a public interface that is made to appear a little buffoonish so the masses can laugh it off, but the real interface is much much better?

      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        46 minutes ago

        Those things are being solved by other forms of AI, not LLMs. AlphaFold is about the most useful thing AI has done so far and it’s not a chatbot.

        We get access to entertainment AI, but there could be different forms of AI in use in medical science that have nothing to do with image or text generation.

    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      2 hours ago

      Because it was a race for simulating more deadly nukes till now. But that got silly, so they need something new to compare their pp.

    • Womble@piefed.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      2 hours ago

      Have you considered that if the worlds two superpowers are dead certain on this being an important area that they are willing to throw coutless billions of investment into, that they might know more than you do?

      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        edit-2
        2 hours ago

        Yeah. But then i remembered some history facts and how lobbying and vulture capital works and decided it unlikely.

        • Womble@piefed.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 hour ago

          You think venture capital dictates to the politburo what its priorities are in China?

  • Optional@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    62
    ·
    13 hours ago

    renowned expert in Chinese technology and founder of the media company Tech Buzz China, [Rui Ma]

    Is the person they’re talking about who is “stunned” at how super double awesome China is at powering AI.

    Ffffffffffffffuck this.

    • Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      6 hours ago

      I like how Americans propaganda themselves - china doesnt even have to anything as Americans will gladly put them on a pedestal to spite themselves.

      Crazy how apparent this is on TikTok especially. People with LGTBQ flags are salivating about China while their flags are literally censored there

  • Jesus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    179
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    15 hours ago

    Gotta hand it to the fossil fuels industry, they got what they wanted and their propaganda worked.

    And now Americans have a janky grid, slower / more expensive transportation, and bigger power bills.

  • JohnnyFlapHoleSeed@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    61
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    14 hours ago

    Yeah. Kind of amazing that for all of their America first bullshit rhetoric, Republicans have consistently and routinely neglected our infrastructure to focus time and money on gays, immigrants, and giving out blowies to billionaires

  • Ilixtze@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    71
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    15 hours ago

    Turns out stubborn contrarianism and anti-science bias are not viable philosophical foundations for progress; what a surprise.

    • pdxfed@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      6 hours ago

      But for a few fleeting moments we did create a lot of value for the shareholders. Totally worth it to flush it all down the drain.

  • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    15 hours ago

    That level of cushion is unthinkable in the United States, where regional grids

    Yeah, capitalism will resolve everything by being greedy. Electricity is not and will never be a merchandise. It’s a basic human need and a natural state monopoly.

  • Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    14 hours ago

    can’t use power to make everyone use electric cars need power for “AI”

    Nice job you jabroonies you did it you lost everything. This is the slow descent of America and it the boomers fault.

    My father in law is convinced theres some guy in a garage that’s gonna invent the next big invention, but hey guess what it takes MONEY that regular joe schmoes dont have!!

    • unconsequential@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      13 hours ago

      Anyone who is working on the next big project in his garage is just signing his own death certificate. That’s the truth about the American energy industry and capitalism’s free markets make “healthy competition economy” myth. Traditional American capitalism is long dead.

    • tisktisk@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      13 hours ago

      I’m not fully disagreeing with you, but blaming past generations is quite precisely how the boomers goofed as severely as they did. They played the blame game to the same tune we are currently, the only difference is they didn’t LARP and play pretend about it as shallowly as we do. If we want to be truly better we must first ensure that we don’t become exactly like the selfish demons we must vanquish. Otherwise evil persists merely in a different form.

      It’s got to stop here with us–we are the last generation, all of us. Identifying core issues is critical–but the secrets of the Egyptians were secrets even to themselves.

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    15 hours ago

    AFAIK in USA it is pretty common to build the power infra structure as part of the AI data-centers that need it.
    This has already been pretty common for normal data-centers for years.
    USA never really had good public service infra structure for it. While for instance in Denmark many companies build data-centers because Denmark both has good infrastructure, and also can supply data-centers with relatively cheap energy from renewable sources, without the company having to foot a giant bill to invest in that too.

    The American model is of course inferior, but it’s not like it doesn’t work at all, it just makes it more expensive.
    On the other hand, in USA they can bribe White House, and do almost whatever the fuck they want. That is NOT an option in China, where it can result in a literal death penalty for the CEO if tried!

    • fitgse@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      14 hours ago

      For some. But Alabama power has raised rates AGAIN to build another 2 gas plants because of data centers. My power bill has increased by 50% in the last 6 years.

  • someguy3@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    14 hours ago

    Everywhere we went, people treated energy availability as a given,” Rui Ma wrote on X after returning from a recent tour of China’s AI hubs.

    For American AI researchers, that’s almost unimaginable. In the U.S., surging AI demand is colliding with a fragile power grid, the kind of extreme bottleneck that Goldman Sachs warns could severely choke the industry’s growth.

    • Peppycito@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      edit-2
      13 hours ago

      Aha. I see the angle they’re going for. “we need more energy to compete against the baddies undercut the working class”

    • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      15 hours ago

      Reading the article helps to see that they are going full renewable.

      Even if AI demand in China grows so quickly renewable projects can’t keep pace, Fishman said, the country can tap idle coal plants to bridge the gap while building more sustainable sources.

        • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          16
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          15 hours ago

          Did I say “are full renewable”? No. I wrote something else with a different meaning.

          • wewbull@feddit.uk
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            12
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            15 hours ago

            You said it was their trajectory. It’s not. Renewables are a part of their plan, sure, but that coal graph isn’t turning around.

            • skisnow@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 hours ago

              Your own graph shows the ratio of renewables to coal hugely shooting up in the last 4 years.

            • AA5B@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              12 hours ago

              Add data from this year.

              From several sources, they passed peak carbon last year, and expect coal to peak this year or next and start declining.

              Also consider during the time in those charts they went from a developing country to mostly developed with much higher standard of living. They achieved a century of economic progress in a couple decades while simultaneously rolling out renewable energy faster than anyone else