To keep on topic what I could find was 17% of all lung cancer cases in heavily impacted regional studies. That is communities within a 2- to 5-kilometer. It seems fairly insignificant or inconclusive for people further outside that range. Seems like there just needs to be a buffer zone around said gas fired powerplants which honestly I think everyone wants. I can’t imagine home prices near any form of powerplant or data center are amazing.
There could be a class action lawsuit. I wonder how other major players in AI are managing this, particularly labs in China, Israel, UK, Singapore, and India. Of course each nation had its own laws around copyright. Like isn’t there an equal pushback like this for Chinese AI labs or is it a uniquely American or western thing?
But cancer like coffee or cancer like strong ionizing radiation?
I think the awareness depression / discontent thing is like the dunning kruger curve. That is the unaware are mostly content, as someone becomes aware they become increasingly discontent, often falling into some sort of nihilistic depression, then as one continues past that point in awareness they grow increasingly towards being content and feelings of internal wellbeing. This is a generalized statement, some follow very different curves.
Dems have been mostly impotent, and same to their voting base, particularly this last election. They seriously have a fetish for shooting themselves in the foot the past decade. For better and mostly worse the right has been very unified and a strong base. All that said I’m personally quite disenchanted with both parties.
My dream is a science based system in which all policies are tested to see if they increase the HDI, GDPPP, and decreasing environmental impact or some optimization of those three. Similar to science it would be in perpetual revision whenever there’s sufficient evidence to infer a policy or structure is no longer operating or operating as well as another. One can dream, for better or worse nearly all nations right now are enslaved by the political beliefs of people long dead.
I mean so are social networks mostly and most search engines and so on. Name of the game is to provide a service to gain people’s attention to serve them ads and / or collect their data. Either that or you pay for it up front and they still serve ads and collect your data.
I mean there’s almost no secret sauce about these AI’s currently which is why open source models are nearly as good. We are totally free to set up a nonprofit kinda like Wikipedia where people donate to train and run AI models for the public based on open source datasets. We’re now seeing people like PewDiePie kinda getting the ball rolling.
I mean we are glazing over the massive fact that they’ve controlled the house and the Senate as well. A president who doesn’t would likely face immediate and harsh backlash otherwise.
I’m still not fully sold that it appreciably does affect air quality, I’m aware it’s not zero but is it causing like cancer and birth defects in people around the powerplant? I think you and I are more aligned than the others on this thread.
I feel like there’s a reasonable optimization. Everything has an environmental cost, even the production of green energy infrastructure. I think we can reasonably compare and contrast the probable lifetime impact of an energy source, including decommission and possible recycling. That is nothing is perfect but it’s about what’s the best we can manage given what the market can financially support.
So at least 10,000 years.
And now you know how your parents / grandparents felt about what you were into.
Reminds me of Terrence McKenna’s statement on being cool. I was cool, until they changed what cool was. It’s always changing and it’s always kinda cringe. Anyone remember LMFAO or essentially the entirety of the 80’s? It’s always been cringe. It’s just that our cringe we considered normal and cool.
The Trump presidencies have really stressed what is legal and our response towards illegal action. This is a bit like when there isn’t a law saying you shouldn’t fuck a horse and then someone goes and fucks a horse so now we need the no horse fucking law.
Yeah the goal is to grab and detain without any connection to the family so there’s no means of response and ultimately deport in which a response is nearly impossible short of the person being wealthy enough or actually a citizen.
The secret about cheaper countries is they’re often very pleasant to live in if you’re willing to give up some comforts. I don’t have Uber eats but there’s a guy I know with a motorcycle I call and he picks me food from anywhere that’s around.
I just meant the topic of cancer which seemed to be a focus. Also I’ve noticed a continual jump between power plants and stoves or other gas household appliances. You are right though that geography and wind patterns definitely play a role. If a buffer zone didn’t matter that would mean one could put a gas fired powerplant on the other side of the earth and they would be at the same health risk as if they were camped out feet away from the exhaust which simply isn’t true. There’s some degree of distance where the effects become negligible. Generally speaking though no one wants to live near power generation of nearly any sort or high power lines which have their own issues.
I don’t think anyone is advocating for us to go back to a time before electricity. PV, solar thermal, hydro, geo thermal, and wind are good, some depending on how they store power, ultimately nuclear is the king and hopefully one day fusion will come around to solve the issue once and for all. Maybe if we find a novel and efficient way of generating antimatter that would be the true ultimate. Coal and gas still have a role to play in many areas not well suited for greener energy and where people get the heeby geebys about nuclear. It does cost more but that could generally be managed by government subsidies.