TimmyDeanSausage

That type of discourse will follow you if you’re the one generating it. I’m not willing to have a conversation with someone that wants to twist everything I say and argue incessantly about which definition of a word, or which frame of reference we should use. You have no intellectual integrity. Now leave me alone please.

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Yeah, you’re still misunderstanding everything and arguing semantics. Sure US democrats are right of center relative to EU politics, but we’re talking about US politics, so one would assume we would operate off of the Overton window in US politics as our frame of reference. But nah, whatever “wins” the argument I guess. I’m done talking to you. Bye bye.

You could have said “so many people” or “so many Democrats”. No, you singled out one group to target.

Democrats are leftists. -.-

It’s a spectrum. Left to right. There’s a lot of groups along that spectrum. “Leftist” is the broadest, most general possible term to use to refer to various people among left leaning idealogies.

So, which is it? Are Internet randoms representative of something, or not?

You, Internet stranger, as an individual, are not representative of anything other than your clear intent to misunderstand everything I try to communicate to you.

There is no such thing as anecdotal evidence.

Hard disagree. Anecdotal evidence is the terminology we use to describe trends we personally see. It’s colored by your perception, obviously, which is why you shouldn’t give it the same weight as actual data, but you can absolutely use it to inform your own opinions (which should also be influenced be real factual evidence/data). To write it off completely is pretty silly, IMO.

I don’t disagree with some of the sentiment you share, and I absolutely agree that Democrat leadership has been failing Americans for a long long time, on many issues, but you’re not going to convince me that a bunch of left leaning people abstaining to vote wasn’t them not being able to see the forest through the trees. Obviously genocide is bad, but it’s worse now that we have an authoritarian in charge who not only wants to support the genocide, but wants to get in on it, maybe open a new resort location after they clear out all the rubble and bodies.

I feel like I’m trying to explain something that’s very obvious, at least to me, and getting nowhere. I guess just keep ignoring the consequences of not voting against a wannabe dictator. Some people can’t be helped.

Where in my comment did I put the onus on progressives? I’m one of the progressives in that demographic, both in the way I voted and donated. I donated to every major progressive candidate in 2021. None of which live in my state. Not that I need to prove anything to you, internet random, just trying to point out how asinine your strawman is.

I said leftists because the left is a broad spectrum with varying beliefs. I’m fully aware that I’m basing my opinion on my own anecdotal evidence, but I’m not someone who only pays attention during the election and follows whatever the current group thought is. Most of the people I saw speaking out against voting were young leftists that were hung up on the US’ role in the genocide happening in Palestine, as if the US hasn’t been a major supporter of almost every imperialist/authoritarian country we’ve had dealings with basically since our inception… I wish people could be more realistic about this stuff. The choice was between more of the same neo-liberalist soft imperialism we’ve had since the early 90’s and outright fascism. By omitting their vote, a lot of young leftists chose outright fascism.

A lot of people are rightfully angry that so many leftists opted out of voting against fascism. How was allowing a dictator to take charge supposed to teach the DNC a lesson? They wanted to burn the house down and now it’s burning with most of us stuck inside. I think it’s fair to call them morons.