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    Is [celebrity noun 1] the new [trendsetter], or is he just getting [influenced with sexual undertones] by [celebrity noun 2]?

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    Celebrity news looked like that for me since I was a kid lol. I never understood how people are supposed to know celebrities and be attracted by such headlines.

    As a kid, I also liked to do crosswords, but I rarely could complete them, because they always asked things about celebrities. I hated it so much.

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      Same. I remember trying to do crossword puzzles, and half of them were like, “Name of the actress who played X in the 90s series title.” Me: Hell if I know… name of a purple crystal used for jewelry and home decorations? oh yeah, I know this one!"

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      I’ve never cared about celebrity news for the sake of celebrity news, but I’ve found I very much care about the actual creation of the art that I like.

      That means sometimes I know about the relationship history of the songwriters whose albums I listen to, knowing that a post-divorce album might explore those themes. Same with when a standup comedian I like becomes a parent, knowing that the observational humor may shift as a result.

      For television and film, I know who’s signing deals with who, which actors and directors like working with each other, what some prior screenwriter was doing before the current project, which studios have reputations for interfering with the artistic vision, which directors and producers have reputations for mismanaging resources, which characters had to be written off of shows for off-set reasons, etc., because it all affects the end product.

      For sports, some of the off-field drama can affect the on-field product (suspensions or personnel movement for non-sports reasons, weird health conspiracy theories affecting one’s return from injured status).

      So I don’t really mess with celebrity gossip in itself, but I do follow industry news in television, film, music, the sports I like, and any other entertainment I enjoy.

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        I’ve found I very much care about the actual creation of the art that I like.

        I totally get that. I think it’s like that for a lot of people.

        Sad thing is, there’s a bunch of folks out there that aren’t all that deep. So “pretty people doing pretty people things” is about the level of involvement there. There’s probably an escapism/fantasy element there too, which may explain why we have people that are famous for being famous.

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    40 years ago and before, slang had to travel by… get this… word of mouth. Now one obnoxious tik tok influencer (and the word is valid because they do actually influence others) to say something for a 12 year old to make it the new thing in her school, thereby infecting an entire town/village/planet. it’s skibidi if you ask me. And I’m 55.

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        Radio was huge. Some rapper could make slang local to his street corner famous and it would be in car commercials within two years.

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      When I was a 12 year old people were drawing that pointy S, which first started showing up in graffiti in the 70’s but became a staple in middle school notebooks by the 90’s. Somehow it had gone fully national without seeming to have any adult influence in its spread.

      Also around the same time, “my bad” entered the lexicon, and went from basketball-coded slang to basically mainstream acceptance by the 90’s, with this blog post from 2005 amusedly marking its use among Ivy League faculty members.

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      On the other hand, we don’t need to try to understand slangs anymore, because they will be obsolete tomorrow in the morning, when a new one appears.

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        No, some of them just become permanent.

        “Cool” first showed up in the late 1910’s and early 1920’s, and so fully absorbed into the culture that each subsequent generation just knows it without really considering it to be slang.

        “My bad” was novel slang in the 80’s, went mainstream in the 90’s, and is still with us today.

        I’d guess that among recent slang, “yeet,” “rizz,” and “drip” will have the most staying power, most likely to be picked up unironically by older generations and just propagated from there.

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              Well, that’s part of why I think those have staying power.

              Same with some slang that’s been around but has recently been elevated to new heights, like “cooked” re-entering the slang mainstream and some younger people thinking their generation invented it.

              Or newer syntactical/grammatical constructions that borrow from established phrases, like “it’s giving (noun or noun phrase)” to mean some kind of description. Or industry jargon that enters the mainstream. Once those hit a threshold popularity they tend to stick around as well.

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          But the ones who get integrated into language for the long-term, we will eventually see them all around and it will be impossible to miss

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    I honestly don’t remember ever having this kind of slang when I was a kid. If anything, our slang was borrowed from previous generations. (“Dude, that’s cool.”) I’m an old millennial, and I speak the same as Gen X and Boomers, it feels like. I never remember my parents asking “what the hell are you saying?”

    Am I just forgetting? Is there a late-90s, early-00s equivalent that I’ve just purged from memory?

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      Probably because you grew up with it an understand it. Here’s some 1950s brainrot slang:

      I’m a circled guy to an ex paper shaker when this bird dog tried to bash her ears at this fat city place, not supermurgitroid!

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      Literally any discussion about Pokeyman (or Yugioh, etc.) our parents overheard was complete nonsense noises to them. I’ve had this brought to my attention by my mother, but only as an adult.

      Also, anything we picked up from our era of flash videos - e.g., someone saying “so, this is the <x>…What a sweet <x> you might say” and someone else reflexively responding “round”, or a loop of “badger” and “mushroom” between friends: also nonsense.

      In any case, it’s an important skill to learn the new slang: as an old, it gives you the power to make it “cringe” by using it. Very fun, on god

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        My grandma would always say “pokemans” and it took me a while to realize she was doing it intentionally to annoy us

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        it gives you the power to make it “cringe” by using it.

        With great power, comes great responsibility. Said responsibility is to ensure that the kids stop using that nonsense by always seeing old people using it “wrong” 🤭

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      I think due to the internet being less of a thing, slang was a lot more localised.

      We definitely got a bit of influence from London slang (I grew up outside London) that never made it up to my cousins in Lancashire, however they had a load of different slang I hadn’t heard of.

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      Yeah I’m on the same page as you - I remember we had some little differences here and there but it was nothing like it is today.

      They’re super proud of it too - the zoomers around me like to talk about it and explain their slang and I have to bit my tongue because I feel like if I was honest and told them 99% of their slang is dumb as shit I would just sound like the old ‘get off my lawn’ type.

      Though that would still be preferable to a dad in my orbit who has gone all in on the slang of his alpha kids and just sounds like the ‘hello fellow youth’ type.

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      I saw a post about slang being linked to platforms shadow blocking and de-monetizing posts with key words i.e. dead, suicide etc. Which lead to “not alive” slang, or something similar.

      I’m too old for this.

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      Nah, you’re not wrong. Sure, there was some more obscure stuff, but I’d say most could be figured out by context or from a traceable evolution from previous generations’ slang. The difference now is video-based social media has slang spreading and evolving at lightspeed. It’s impossible to keep up unless you’re immersed in that bubble either directly or by proxy of peers.

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        For a recent example, watching how quickly “crashout” spread among the YouTube creators I normally watch was really incredible. I have no idea where it started but now it’s everywhere.

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      I never remember my parents asking “what the hell are you saying?”

      I was a teenager in the 1980s. My dad picked me up from a party one night and happened to see the video that was playing on MTV. During the ride home he went on and on about how disturbing the imagery and lyrics from the video were.

      It was “Cuts Like a Knife” by Bryan Adams. Imagine thinking fucking Bryan Adams is triggering the apocalypse lol. He’s Canadian for pete’s sake!

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    This one is actually easy to parse. I’m assuming baby gronk is Gronkowski’s kid. I’m not big into American football but it was almost impossible to not hear about Gronk a few years ago. Normally drip is fashion or style so drip king in this context would probably mean ability on the field. Rizz is just short for charisma, so they are asking of he’s just being hyped by whoever that last person they refer to. I’m not sure who that is and I don’t think it’s really worth looking up. Baby gronk is still a child, of course this is all manufactured hype.

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      Livvy is Livvy Dunne the gymnast. And apparently Gronk is trying to hype up his very young son as a future athlete.

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        Didn’t LeBron force his team to sign his son?

        Sports is now like any other regime whore trade… Nepo baby pipeline.

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      No. Baby gronk was a sensation a few years ago in like u12 football because he was bigger than all the other kids ie he is a “baby” gronk. His dad promotes him hella on socials and now he’s an internet celebrity. “Drip king” can refer to a lot. Here I’d say it’s how well does he dress and what kind of aura does he have. But it’s a catch all term in this context. Livvy Dunne is a former LSU gymnast who became a huge internet celebrity around the same time as baby gronk, so there was a lot of talk of baby gronk rizzing her up and iirc they met up one time.

      “Baby gronk rizzing up Livvy” is also a meme that has been around a couple years because it’s a silly sentence.

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    Ha! My penultimate daughter said something to me the other day and I was like “huh?” because I thought I’d misheard her, it didn’t sound like words. She repeated the exact same string of sounds, and I was like, “ok I didn’t mishear you, but that just sounds like nonsense”.

    Later in the week she showed me a “Needo Nice Squishy Cube” - that was what she had been talking about. The imminent arrival of the blue needo nice.

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    I never understood slang as a kid but I’m finally starting to figure it out. By the time my kids are teenagers, I’ll be a pro. They won’t be able to hide anything from me.

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    I’m a big fan of the word ‘calc’. It’s short for calculator by the way, I’m just using slang. Oh by the way if anyone’s new to the stream, calc is short for calculator. I’m just using slang.