• burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
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    21 hours ago

    Ugh, I hate the carnivore diet folks because I have a really good friend that did it and actually lost a bunch of weight and got back to being much more healthy and spry. How do you gently bring up the long term crap that it can do without sounding like an ass as your friend gets happier and happier? Luckily he reintroduced vegetables at two months in, but I know of some idiots who don’t.

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      19 hours ago

      So many of these diets boil down to cutting calories by cutting high calorie foods like carbs (especially sugars) and fats.

      Calorie counting is the only tool needed to lose weight.

      I’ve been skinny, muscular, and chubby all on a typical diet and again on a vegan diet.

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        16 hours ago

        Calorie counting is the only tool needed to lose weight.

        That’s just wrong. Ask an NFL football player, pro soccer or pro whatever if they count calories and lose weight anyway.

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          15 hours ago

          Nah, they’re correct. Calories are the determining factor for controlling weight. But intake aren’t the only numbers on a calorie balance sheet, workouts go on there too as subtractions. If you want to lose weight you make sure that your daily total leaves you at a deficit (Negative number). Athletes are usually already at their target weight and so they just make sure their daily numbers work out to somewhere around zero total.

          http://justcico.com/

          I would feel negligent if I didn’t also mention to other readers: This is just for weight. If you want to be healthy, it’s important to also get proper vitamin, mineral, and protein intake daily regardless of caloric in/out.

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            15 hours ago

            My beef with this mindset is that it makes people too focused on counting calories. Psychologically, it’s really bad for you. There are many elements to that.

            Plus, If some dude is on the couch 99% of non-working time, them walking or whatever, will make them lose weight almost instantly. Even just going for a daily walk as long as they can, being kind of they don’t go that far that day, but picking up the next day, will improve their mindset.

            If you just look at the biology, it will fuck with the psychology of losing weight, which is probably why they’re overweight in the first place.

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              15 hours ago

              Yeah I do agree with this concern. That’s why I added the addendum at the bottom of my comment, though I might have been adding it at the same time you were typing your reply.

              Just starving yourself is not a good strategy for health or weight loss. You won’t maintain a starvation diet forever and when you stop you’ll go right back to your old habits and weight. A caloric weight loss plan should absolutely assume that workouts will be the primary driver of the calorie deficit (And it’s actually not hard, even for someone of weak will like me, to do that: One workout = One free meal!). That’s why the tool I linked needs to know your workout routine. In fact if I would change anything with that tool I would add the option to replace the workouts drop-down with a custom workout deficit amount because “1-3 workouts / week” is too vague, everyone’s workouts are different.

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          14 hours ago

          There’s a lot more that goes into a healthy diet and lifestyle but for weight management this is the only factor.