When the accusation means the death penalty with no trial, nobody is safe

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    Fuck everyone who clapped back at me when I said Bush and Obama’s extrajudicial killings would come back to bite us.

    Habeas corpus for all.

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      Bush and Obama had the legal cover of the original Congressional AUMF from 2001. That has now finally fully expired.

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        No they did not. They started wars all over the place but simply did not call them wars. All without congressional approval.

        Trump can do this so easily because they made it possible to kill anyone deemed a terrorist. All Trump had to was expand the definition of terrorism to include drug dealers.

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        Yeah well Trump has the legal cover of “I can do whatever the fuck I want” immunity which has fully not expired. Worst case they just tell him he can’t kill people like 3 years after he killed a bunch of people and he just says “no.”

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        I feel like the administration is going to have any legal backing, it will probably center on the rights of stateless vessels. Does the President have the right to use lethal force against pirates in international waters?

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          The US has universal jurisdiction to prosecute pirates and to seize their vessels. Seize does not mean “sink.”

          As far as I know, they don’t have a lot of facts in this case to spin into a “the bad guys escalated a law enforcement boarding operation” scenario.

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            While sieze doesn’t mean sink explicitly, the argument is going to go to what acceptable force can be used against a stateless vessel not complying with an order to be boarded for inspection.

            It is also international waters, not American soil. Legal protections in international waters are likely smaller than legal protections on American soil due to how international diplomacy created the law of the sea.

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              The US will disregard international law. The US also never ratified the un law of the sea.