So liberals are nazis now? I’ll pen that in under alt-right nationalists, republicans, conservatives in general, democrats…
Like seriously, we are seriously watering down the word Nazi by just labeling everyone we don’t like as a racist supporter of fascism.
Besides, how can every blue state and blue city be riddled with Nazis if they are the one’s constantly complaining that our government is devolving into an authoritarian state? RIDDLE ME!!
There were several rebuttals, you just can’t see them. Plus, the link between liberalism and fascism is well-established, both are capitalist ideologies, and since capitalism decays, liberalism leads to fascism.
That is such a shoddy argument. Communism leads to fascism, we have examples. Socialism leads to fascism, we have examples. Monarchy leads to fascism, we have examples. ALL political schemes can lead to fascism, and it has everything to do with the pursuit of power by a few and very little to do with the system of governance itself. Of course Capitalism can lead to fascism; where ever there is fair compromise to be exploited there will be an opportunity for fascism.
Also, I didn’t see any other replies to my comment. Unless you think I’m going to stalk the person I replied to and nag them to reply to me directly, I don’t think that counts :/
Fascism is specifically a bourgeois ideology that emerges when property rights are in danger and the ruling class needs to assert itself. Fascism isn’t just “when the government does stuff I don’t like,” it’s an irrational ideology that emerges out of the rational interests of the bourgeoisie when capitalism is in crisis.
Hmm, that’s interesting. I can’t find that definition for fascism anywhere, but I’m not going to dismiss it just because a few dictionaries don’t align perfectly. I’ll do some digging and see if I can find the historical context and first-use cases.
I am curious what parts of China are your friends from? I mostly hang out with people from Sichuan, with one friend from a village called Urumqi(I have no idea where that is though). China is a big place, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a different regard for the government region-to-region.
As for fascism, Wikipedia pretty clearly puts it at a far-right ideology, one that first appeared in Italy with Mussolini. I don’t really put too much stock in Wikipedia vs books on the subject, but I’m not really aware of any non-far-right version of fascism.
Urumqi is in Xinjiang, seems cool to visit! Would love to. Most of my Chinese friends are online, so they don’t really say where they are from (neither do I), but I’d expect somewhere near the coast or more populous like Congqing or Chengdu, Shangai, etc.
If you voted for Palestinian extermination, regardless of your reasons for doing so, you are a nazi.
Liberals spent a year browbeating anyone who pointed this out as a Hamas supporter (based), “unpragmatic” (hilarious) hysterical tankies who could never be pleased. We tried to warn you feckless pack-followers that you were signing on to the ultimate crime. This was your response: to plug your ears and laugh
We tried to warn you, and now It’s too late for you motherfuckers to pretend to care about “aurhoritarianism” when you were happy to support it being inflicted on brown people out of sight and out of mind. I hope brunch was worth it, because you’re social poison now.
In all fairness, a liberal is just a Nazi that has never actually experienced suffering before.
So liberals are nazis now? I’ll pen that in under alt-right nationalists, republicans, conservatives in general, democrats…
Like seriously, we are seriously watering down the word Nazi by just labeling everyone we don’t like as a racist supporter of fascism. Besides, how can every blue state and blue city be riddled with Nazis if they are the one’s constantly complaining that our government is devolving into an authoritarian state? RIDDLE ME!!
Baffling how this got downvoted to lemmy’s equivalent of oblivion with no rebuttals by anyone, you’re absolutely right.
There were several rebuttals, you just can’t see them. Plus, the link between liberalism and fascism is well-established, both are capitalist ideologies, and since capitalism decays, liberalism leads to fascism.
That is such a shoddy argument. Communism leads to fascism, we have examples. Socialism leads to fascism, we have examples. Monarchy leads to fascism, we have examples. ALL political schemes can lead to fascism, and it has everything to do with the pursuit of power by a few and very little to do with the system of governance itself. Of course Capitalism can lead to fascism; where ever there is fair compromise to be exploited there will be an opportunity for fascism.
Also, I didn’t see any other replies to my comment. Unless you think I’m going to stalk the person I replied to and nag them to reply to me directly, I don’t think that counts :/
Fascism is specifically a bourgeois ideology that emerges when property rights are in danger and the ruling class needs to assert itself. Fascism isn’t just “when the government does stuff I don’t like,” it’s an irrational ideology that emerges out of the rational interests of the bourgeoisie when capitalism is in crisis.
I believe you missed @ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net’s comment.
Hmm, that’s interesting. I can’t find that definition for fascism anywhere, but I’m not going to dismiss it just because a few dictionaries don’t align perfectly. I’ll do some digging and see if I can find the historical context and first-use cases.
I am curious what parts of China are your friends from? I mostly hang out with people from Sichuan, with one friend from a village called Urumqi(I have no idea where that is though). China is a big place, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a different regard for the government region-to-region.
As for fascism, Wikipedia pretty clearly puts it at a far-right ideology, one that first appeared in Italy with Mussolini. I don’t really put too much stock in Wikipedia vs books on the subject, but I’m not really aware of any non-far-right version of fascism.
Urumqi is in Xinjiang, seems cool to visit! Would love to. Most of my Chinese friends are online, so they don’t really say where they are from (neither do I), but I’d expect somewhere near the coast or more populous like Congqing or Chengdu, Shangai, etc.
It’s really very simple.
If you voted for Palestinian extermination, regardless of your reasons for doing so, you are a nazi.
Liberals spent a year browbeating anyone who pointed this out as a Hamas supporter (based), “unpragmatic” (hilarious) hysterical tankies who could never be pleased. We tried to warn you feckless pack-followers that you were signing on to the ultimate crime. This was your response: to plug your ears and laugh
We tried to warn you, and now It’s too late for you motherfuckers to pretend to care about “aurhoritarianism” when you were happy to support it being inflicted on brown people out of sight and out of mind. I hope brunch was worth it, because you’re social poison now.
Did anyone ever uncover who those people covering their ears and mocking the victims were?
Who is the “we” in you who did the warning? Do you have a group name?