• RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
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    22 hours ago

    Why would you be cowardly if you knew you were going to be rewarded with paradise?

    That’s what I don’t understand about theists. It just sounds to me like you’re not sold on your belief system.

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      22 hours ago

      Do you think that people who believe in God KNOW?! It’s belief in the unseen, my guy, a leap of faith INTO faith which takes both effort and courage, and an Israeli missile/bullets don’t require that and trigger your survival instincts. You’re understanding things in a very intellectually limited “black and white” way, detached from the human experience and all notions of epistemology…

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        16 hours ago

        It’s true, I haven’t delved very deeply into the musings of most works of fiction.

        You say you have faith in your belief system, but you don’t have that much faith if you’re worried about dying.

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        21 hours ago

        Nah, OP is right. A believe is the idea that something is true, even if there is no factual base for it.

        It is an act of strength and courage to renounce religion, rather than to delve deeper into that madness.

        Admitting a person lied to themselves is really hard. Look at all the motherfuckers who killed themselves and others for some god. They are the cowards.

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          18 hours ago

          Even morality cannot just be reasoned into, since moral “shoulds” don’t follow from factual “ares” (check Hume’s fork, or the “is-ought” problem, for an easy explanation). Every belief of these natures is something you either take or not. And “religion” is doing a lot of work here and is inappropriate. I understand dismissing many belief sets and ideologies because they contradict either reality or your own moral codes, and I also understand having a bad after taste for all beliefs because of a negative experience with one (I felt this way myself for about two decades!), but the latter simply doesn’t follow logically. And to each their own, of course.