Just don’t get a court order by Meta like the other dude that created a front-end for Instagram. Can’t remember the name since it was before the pandemic. There was a lot of news about it in the FOSS community.
Barinsta was a full client, not just a simple frontend.
That was the name! And yes, you’re right. It was a full client.
Obviously I’m not a lawyer but I don’t see what law they could use to shut it down. All it’s doing is accessing publicly available data via a proxy. It’s not like it’s exploiting Instagram somehow.
If they wanna stop it, they can do what Twitter did and start requiring an account to see almost anything. Personally I suspect Meta is slowly going towards that.
Good. Then they have nothing to say about :)
Very cool. Guess I’ll have to use it on the PC rather than using istander.
Why? Fuck Instagram.
I made this because I hate Instagram, but there’s still lots of valid reasons to use it.
No. There is no valid reason to use it. All this does is continue to enable a massive AI data center and Zuckerbergs billions. Walking away is the only viable option. It needs to go away, stop helping it remain.
Edit: Why would any one argue with this? Unless you are a billionaire, use of this shit is hurting you. Your environment, AI slop, your politics for fucks sake. Continued use is making your life worse for the sake of a handful of people enriching themselves from it, and you don’t care?
I was able to delete my Twitter account because of nitter, because I could view posts without logging in.
On the one side, you’re absolutely right. On the other hand, people around us are still using it, especially Musicians and Artists. If I want to find out some concert dates or check the mail of a tattoo artist I like, sometimes I have no other option than checking Instagram, despite killing the artist of my list – which I do not want to :-)
I disagree. Billions are being made, data centers and AI machines are being built that use the electricity that could power 50 million homes, and that is Meta ALONE. Your tattoo artist and musicians are perpetuating it. Oh well, they don’t need my business. I don’t support people that do that.
If people keep saying “but I have to”, then fuck it, meta won.
Awesome! Got it running and seems to work well. Also I love the
CLAUDE.mdfile you got there in the repo 🐈I’m happy someone noticed it
Read it now. It made my day a bit better :)
It would be great if people could stop using Meta services and software.
It would be great if people stop using social media in general.
Lemmy is social media
You are right. According to the definition of social media, Lemmy is social media. However, “social media” would by definition fit any kind of digital communication media. A forum, or a blog, or an IRC channel are also, by definition, social media.
I would argue that the social media has a distinct association with Facebook, Instagram and the diverse spawns of those, and by association doesn’t fit anything else. At best, we simply lack a different term, which splits “old-school” stuff like forums and blogs. I view lemmy more like a forum. You have categories, and users can go into categories to start discussions. You don’t follow anyone. People also don’t create and post their own content, but rather seek discussions or share other stuff from the internet. Your goal is not reach, follow count or like count.
It is social media, but it’s definitely nothing like Facebook. We simply lack a better term.
I would definitely call a forum or IRC channel social media.
I wouldn’t consider blogs social media unless they had a very active comments section.
Media is more audio, video, image. Which fits social media.
Most forums and blogs are text-based or primary text. There is no blog sharing only images/videos/audio as posts. Also no such forum.
That would be my key differentiation - forums and IRC is social, but not really media.
Printed media is definately media, and so are blogs. The social part of it is how people can interact with it.
What is the social part? I change my name daily, and dont really give a shit about people following me.
Its social because you’re interacting with other people
No. I am reading an aggregation forum, and getting clarity and insights from the comments. I barely am interacting with anyone.
Look, this term didn’t even exist until the mid 90’s and didn’t take off in common use until the mid 2000’s.
The difference is Lemmy is topic centered thread first, discussion last, where social media is basically a self publishing, identity first platform. People put shit on instagram and facebook because it is about them (mostly). Here it is just news/stories with comments. And anonymity, which is what makes it all work.
I consider everyone here the same way I did when I was on a bbs: they are liars. Modern twist: they are liars and bots. Everyone is bullshitting and saying whatever they want, this is hardly a social event.
So is twitter not social media if you just use it to read hashtags, and get clarity and insight from the comments?
Other social media sites can very much be topic centered
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No, it is a social network. That’s different from social media.
Its not a car, its a vehicle!
There is a difference between the two terms as well, so thanks for supporting my point /s
What would you define social media as?
Oxford says.
websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking.
That definition certainly matches Lemmy.
Social networking is about connecting people, which Lemmy as a forum does. You could argue that the function of Lemmy as a link aggregator is more social media like, but I doubt people would consider an RSS feed reader to be social media either.
Social media is like TV, a one-to-many medium, usually with some sort of feed curation to promote certain topics.
I have never heard anyone refer to TV as social media, I have always heard it in context with facebook, twitter and co.
a better objection, which makes me uncertain whether lemmy is social media, is that this is a pseudonymous forum where its not common for users to become friends or know each other, and discussion is not around a specific news site or a specific person, but around specific topics
I didn’t say TV is social media, I said social media is like TV is the sense that it is a one-to-many medium. I could have also used TikTok to explain the difference, but people here are clearly confused about the destinction and it would have been less clear.
pseudonymous forum where its not common for users to become friends or know each other
This isn’t really true for regular commenters. There are even feuds between specific users and so on. I agree though that there are constant attempts by some people who try to make Lemmy more like social media by advocating for dissolving the destinction between communities and instances to turn Lemmy into a dumb meme and news posting app for entertainment purposes.
That’s a totally made up definition from your part. Media is the plural of medium, which means “intermediary”. A social media is just the middleman that allows people to socialize. Lemmy is a social media, as well as a social network.
Every definition is “made up” 🙄
What I explained is how these terms are commonly used on the fediverse.
And anyways, if “social media” and “social network” is the same, why have two different terms for it?
Social networking is about connecting people
Well Lemmy is not about that at all. I know absolutely Zero people from lemmy.
That seems to be a you problem.
Of course it is an pseudonymous online forum, so it isn’t about making friends in real-life, but you can make plenty of connections with people online via it.
Cool! Keeping up with platform changes is a challenge for projects like this. I think to be successful beyond initial popularity you need an active community that can do this together. It’s draining for just one person - especially once you get big enough that they might actively break things just to mess with your integration. Following maintenance of alternative YouTube clients as well as searx-ng is illustrative.
Not to discourage but be prepared. Best of luck!
https://cadence.moe/blog/2022-09-01-discontinuing-bibliogram
I’ve already read that article, the situation on Instagram has changed a bit, which makes scraping easier.
Ratelimits are still a problem if you don’t have a residential IP, but I have a workaround for that (which I’m hesitant to share publicly).
Nice. After Bilbogram was discontinued, I believe we all were waiting for an replacement.
Isn’t it better to stop using Instagram at all? Insted of trying self-hosted shenanigans…
its better to quit heroin, but safe injection sites are good for public health
Still easier to uninstall an app than dealing with abstinence syndrome… but if you think beyond that stop watching asses on the internet is like stop doing heroin. So finally I think what you say is fair.
I don’t use Twitter nor insta, but sometimes I get shared a link and nitter handy to check it out without an account. So I applaud this
This is how I use front end apps. Other than the data contained in the posts, I have no interest in Insta, FB, et al. Similar to how I use RedLib for Reddit because, despite Reddit turning into a cesspool, there are still some great technical subs that contain valuable info. Interacting on Reddit tho, is a hard pass.
I’m not “using” Instagram actively, but sometimes I want to see a public profile and it doesn’t let me. Didn’t check this out yet but if it doesn’t need a login it could help with this
This doesn’t let you interact with Instagram, it just lets you view profiles/posts
awesome! i hope this stays around.
would be nice if it also saved/archived everything it downloads from instagram and sends it to the internet archive
It would be cool if this was ActivityPub compatible so we could follow Instagram from Mastodon. As much as I hate meta, there are some artists I would like to follow still
Check https://kilogram.makeup/
Or even if it could provide RSS feeds of accounts, for following in a RSS reader.
Though excellent work!
I would like to add RSS, I don’t think it’s feasible https://cadence.moe/blog/2022-09-01-discontinuing-bibliogram
A much-requested feature I added early on was RSS feeds. This ended up getting quickly turned off for the main instance, because RSS usage was dwarfing interactive usage. Many of these feeds had been added to people’s readers and forgotten about. Even today I still receive a decent number of forgotten requests for feeds — these forgotten feeds haven’t returned useful data for more than two years. Feed requests aren’t free. Bibliogram needs to make an outgoing web request, wait for it, and convert the response data. This also uses up a piece of Bibliogram’s rate limit to Instagram, even if nobody’s there to see the feed that Bibliogram generates.
I could add it, but have it disabled by default, so anyone hosting a personal instance can enable it.
Being able to set up personally hosted RSS feeds would be useful. If the feeds are fetched periodically, that could also allow archiving of accounts.
looks great! Thank you for making this
Awesome work!
Codeberg is down, what’s the URL?
My instance is https://kittygram.irelephant.net/
Cool, thank you. Would be cool if we were able to follow accounts from there…
thats possible apparently: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/23840511
LOL its broken already.
well Instagram is serious about ratelimits
Pretty sure Bibliogram was inspired by Nitter before it became deprecated. Hope to see this flourish.
Doing the lords work, thank you
