• olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    So, that’s the problem?! What will happen to the US citizens, while their country is literally performing an imperialist attack on another?

    Some people are just too dumb I think.

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    Greenlanders also recieve scholarships, free transportation (planes and helicopters) as well as free dental, which the rest of us don’t.

    I would kill for free dental and free public transport.

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        What does that mean? Whether or not we lose Greenland, I won’t get free dental and free public transport anytime soon. The greenlandic, on the other hand, either get to keep these perks or they get to be part of the US which I’m sure they don’t want. I sure as shit don’t want them to end up the new Puerto Rico because I have zero trust that the Americans will treat them as people with human rights.

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          I have zero trust that the Americans will treat them as people with human rights.

          As if muricans have a track record of trampling natives… oh.

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    I don’t support the American takeover of Greenland, but I fully support the Greenland takeover of America. Where do I vote?

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    52 weeks is mind blowing. They got it good over there. Almost like the government wants people to create families/communities.

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      That’s the power of unions. They got so powerful the politicians were scared of them and started improving worker rights out of self-preservation.

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    IMO the biggest cultural difference is guns. Apparently there are liberals in the US who think nationalized healthcare, cheap or free university, paid parental leave, guaranteed long vacation, etc. is all wonderful. But, they love their guns so much that that would be a red line. They’d forfeit all the great things that a European socialist country has to offer if the deal also requires that they give up their guns.

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      Okay, hear me out. How about we get all that good stuff and just carve out a gun excepion. There’d be a lot less shooting each other if people weren’t afraid of starving on the streets and were getting free mental health care.

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      Or maybe it’s because republicans take every opportunity to block it or remove it, like they did this past December.

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      You are allowed guns but the reason that you have for owning a gun has to be a little bit more than “because I want one”.

      Also the decision about whether or not you get a gun is up to local police. And they can deny you for any reason they like including that they know you to be a frequent flyer.

      But really it’s more about the fact that people aren’t really interested in guns outside the US. In the US they are a cultural thing, outside they are just a tool but a useful to have if you need to make use of that tool. I don’t own a gun for the same reason that I don’t own a quad bike, I’m not a farmer and I live in the city, so I don’t need one.

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        You are allowed guns but the reason that you have for owning a gun has to be a little bit more than “because I want one”.

        Yeah, I don’t like that and I don’t even own a gun. I don’t think governments should have a monopoly on violence or the tools of violence.

        With the exception of nukes, but mostly because I don’t think anyone should have those. If only governments have them though at least they have some level of self interest to not nuke their own population.

        Then again I’m pretty nihilistic these days, maybe I’m ok with the McNuke now. As long as I’m instantly vaporized if one goes off, I don’t want to experience the black rain and slow agonizing radiation death.

        I also don’t think its the government’s business should I decide to buy a gun what I intend to do with it. Will I ever buy one? Probably not. But still, principle of the thing.

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        You are allowed guns

        Which would be a red line for Americans who think that guns are an inherent right and that the very idea that the government might be able to say “no” is unacceptable.

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      I live in the socialist paradise Sweden and have three rifles for hunting, my wife has two, my mom three. Some of my friends have pistols for sports shooting. I don’t get why Americans think guns only exist in America. Also, we currently have a right wing government. Funny thing is that is was the social democrats who made the laws that anyone could own rifles for hunting as it used to be only the land owning people who had that right before, the parties on right opposed that because they were afraid the rifles would be used to start a revolution or something.

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        Does anybody in the country have the right to go to a store and get a gun without question? What makes the US unique is that the constitution is currently interpreted to mean that gun ownership is a right, and that the government can’t do anything to regulate it.

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    Pro tip for white people, because your colonizer indoctrination has made you blind to this:

    No one that gets invaded by anyone ends up better than they started. Yes, that includes all the countries you’ve invaded too.

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      Pro tip for Americans* All children in American schools, no matter the race, are receiving colonizer indoctrination.

      Have you even met any Americans? If you have, then you’d know this, if you are American … then bless you, you haven’t seen the world. This is purely a culture thing. There are actual Venezuelan immigrants in my state who are MAGA and are CHEERING for the takeover of Venezuela.

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        I legitimately thought this a while back. American indoctrination is sleepwalking people into being comfortable with autocracy.

        I have an American coworker whose family are undocumented from the Philippines that overstayed their visa. He himself has no papers when he was brought here as a child, and right now is just a green card holder through his husband. He is constantly astounded that they are MAGA, but have no energy to deal.

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      As a PoC who grew up in the West the colonizer indoctrination is directed at everyone here, not just white people. We’re just more likely to decolonize our mindset due to attachment to communities negatively impacted by colonial institutions.

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      In the short run, no. In the long run, it depends.

      Many countries that were colonized had absolutely terrible child mortality rates. Parents had to expect that a third of their children would die before they became teenagers. One in five didn’t make it to one year old. Being colonized eventually brought medicine which reduced childhood mortality so parents didn’t have to watch their children die.

      How important that is depends on your point of view. Maybe you personally don’t care much about your children dying, and having unspoiled nature is more important. If so, then maybe there are no major benefits to being invaded / colonized, even decades or centuries later.

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        My friend from India said this once. The British are like when someone visits your apartment and they brought cake. Then proceeds to smash your TV and kill your grandma, and steal your safe. At least you have cake I guess.

        Yeah, not particularly a good trade off.

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        For the folks that told me “no that isn’t what people think” here you go. Hot fresh colonizer mindset, for your pleasure.

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      I generally agree, and I have the same mindset. So you can imagine how surprised I was when my Taiwanese friend told me how much better off Taiwan was after the Japanese occupation. Probably the only Asians with a positive opinion of Japan…

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        Their family probably came to Taiwan after the Japanese invasion.

        Japan was notoriously brutal to the indigenous population, but most of the people in Taiwan came there in the civil war.

        In fact, stamping out the indigenous culture has been an ongoing part of the post civil war Taiwanese government, and it’s only recently that the Taiwanese language has been allowed to be taught in schools.

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        To be fair, the Japanese occupation of Taiwan ended in 1945, so who knows what you’re friend is basing that on.

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          "If we just invade them and force them to adopt our ideologies for 80 years there will be so much natural progress.

          And as payment for our contributions, we can monopolize all their their resources to our private companies where locals will work for near-slavery conditions."

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      Nice

      Has anyone ever said that racism is bad even when it’s against white people? Just don’t do it to anyone as we’re all the same, and such?

      Pro tip: just replace any color with a different color. If all of the sudden it sounds offensive to you, then it was offensive to begin with.

      I now sincerely wonder how many people will come by to tell me that racism towards white people is fine because a group of white people were assholes, so we all must be assholes

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          And another “racism is okay if it’s against the people I don’t like” type

          Make fun all you want, you know what you are

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            Taking someone else’s yogurt out of the fridge and murder are both wrong, but I’m far more concerned about the addressing the latter than the former.

            It doesn’t say that it’s right or okay, just silly to compare the two as if they’re the same.

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      Yes, that includes all the countries you’ve invaded too.

      Even “women cannot become doctors”-Afghanistan?

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        Yes. Motherfuckering liberals still out here like, “We had to murder hundreds of thousands of your civilians to save you from yourselves,” even about a project that (entirely predictably) ended in complete, abject failure and left everyone worse off except oil companies and arms dealers.

        It’s incredible how much this 1800s colonizer mindset lives on in modern day people.

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    Wrong and very nonsensical question.

    Rephrase it to “if Denmark acquires California”.

    We are so down with all of this. Sign California up!!

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    It would actually be the other way around, hence why Greenland will fight tooth and nails to not become part of the US.

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          The funniest thing about this is that if they did actually propose it, Trump would be absolutely stupid not to support it; it would basically ensure GOP domination in every major election for the foreseeable future if we lost California’s blue votes.

          What I’m saying here is, don’t stop at California, include all the other blue states, too, please. Take us with you. :(

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            Well…

            California contributes more than 10% of the USA’s GDP, so while it might be tempting to gain power, it would probably demolish the economy.

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                Oh, definitely. Just wanted to stress that it would be even worse without one of the richest and most productive states.

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        This I think is indeed the main reason why Greenland does not wish to be part of the US. Trump offered to pay 100.000 to each citizen of Greenland, to buy it. But this is less than what Denmark spends on Greenland every year.

        I honestly believe that there are more people who want the US to become part of Denmark, than there are people who want Greenland to become part of the US

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      One of the biggest reasons I do not want to join the USA is that I do not want to lose our healthcare.

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    Actually I have 6 weeks paid vacation 18% employer paid pension, but I’m a government employee. Danes in commercial industry only have 5 weeks and about 9% pension… Suckers

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    That’s one of the reasons he wants the EU destroyed. We set a bad example. Things can be done differently, even under capitalism.

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    I’m a bit unhappy with my current job, because I only get 25 days of paid holidays (of course not including public holidays). That’s 5 days below industry average, so my next job I’ll look gor 35+ days.