Yeh that time has passed. It’s understandable everyone has been brought up on that premise…we all have but the speed and the ferocity of how that changed is frightening.
Can it be switched back on the outcome of a vote? I think not at this stage. Many seem to be waiting for one of those hero’s they see in the movies, for the virtue signalling celebrities, or for a band of politicians to come to the rescue.
They ain’t. They are just as shocked and are busy hiding in fancier houses.
More like mad at the people who refused to vote in the last election to try to prove a point, and landed us in this mess. You can’t vote your way out of fascism if you don’t vote.
Sure. But being pissed off at non-voters in the last election doesn’t get you out of fascism either, waiting for a blue wave in the midterms is also a mistake since the controlled opposition are bought & paid for by the same people.
The only way to rid themselves of fascism is for everyone to put their tools down, go into the streets, and strike until Trump’s paymasters have lost enough profit that he isn’t worth the trouble anymore.
Then what happens? tRump becomes their fall guy, they replace him with Vance, and then everyone goes back to work while Vance completes the fascist takeover of government because everyone’s too tired to keep fighting, have bills to pay, don’t take Vance seriously, and tell themselves they achieved a victory by getting trump removed?
The republican party needs to collapse, and while taking away their cult leader will help that along, they’ll just replace him as long as there’s a clear line of succession, and right now that line goes trump->vance->mike johnson.
What needs to happen to effectuate a full collapse of the republican party is for their electability to become untenable. They need to be voted out of office in state, local, and federal elections in as many numbers as we can manage, until they lose their majorities and with it their ability to protect trump and rubber stamp his lunacy.
Once people see that loyalty to trump is a losing platform, moderate republicans can start primarying maga loyalists. When Dems have a more comfortable majority, they can tolerate more political risks such as platforming more progressive candidates. Whether you think that’s a risk or not is irrelevant, because the fact is that the DNC views it as a risk and will only do it willingly if they’re not afraid it might threaten their chances of gaining or maintaining a majority.
People keep saying “You can’t vote your way out of fascism,” and maybe they’re right, especially once fascism has tightened its fist. This is still the early stages though, and frankly it’s unclear whether their hold is solid enough to contravene the electoral process.
And frankly nothing else is going to get us out of this either, because no nation in history, let alone a dictatorship, has ever had the surveillance technology, military capabilities, and militarized police forces to the degree that the US government does today. You’re not going to fight your way out of this, and it’s naïve to think you will. I’m not happy about that, but it’s the plain, simple truth.
Besides, until the midterms come and pass, and unless they’re either canceled, manipulated, or tampered with, or the results are ignored, then the fourth sentence of the Declaration of Independence takes precedence over the third and fifth sentences.
If any of those things happen with the elections, then that would trigger the third and fifth sentences, but until then stop telling people the midterms are hopeless.
The simple truth is this shouldn’t have happened. People have been passive about the amount of money in politics and the rise in power of the billionaires. This denial has enabled a monster of. Situation.
I’m not sure they’re mad. They’re just afraid. They’re afraid to become a target. They’re afraid that you’re right and they are contributing to the end of humanity. They are afraid they won’t be able to get ripe oranges in February. But until it directly affects their daily lives, they’re content to turtle up and ride it out.
And they’re mad at anyone who tries to tell them that they can’t vote their way out of fascism.
Yeh that time has passed. It’s understandable everyone has been brought up on that premise…we all have but the speed and the ferocity of how that changed is frightening.
Can it be switched back on the outcome of a vote? I think not at this stage. Many seem to be waiting for one of those hero’s they see in the movies, for the virtue signalling celebrities, or for a band of politicians to come to the rescue. They ain’t. They are just as shocked and are busy hiding in fancier houses.
More like mad at the people who refused to vote in the last election to try to prove a point, and landed us in this mess. You can’t vote your way out of fascism if you don’t vote.
Sure. But being pissed off at non-voters in the last election doesn’t get you out of fascism either, waiting for a blue wave in the midterms is also a mistake since the controlled opposition are bought & paid for by the same people.
The only way to rid themselves of fascism is for everyone to put their tools down, go into the streets, and strike until Trump’s paymasters have lost enough profit that he isn’t worth the trouble anymore.
Then what happens? tRump becomes their fall guy, they replace him with Vance, and then everyone goes back to work while Vance completes the fascist takeover of government because everyone’s too tired to keep fighting, have bills to pay, don’t take Vance seriously, and tell themselves they achieved a victory by getting trump removed?
The republican party needs to collapse, and while taking away their cult leader will help that along, they’ll just replace him as long as there’s a clear line of succession, and right now that line goes trump->vance->mike johnson.
What needs to happen to effectuate a full collapse of the republican party is for their electability to become untenable. They need to be voted out of office in state, local, and federal elections in as many numbers as we can manage, until they lose their majorities and with it their ability to protect trump and rubber stamp his lunacy.
Once people see that loyalty to trump is a losing platform, moderate republicans can start primarying maga loyalists. When Dems have a more comfortable majority, they can tolerate more political risks such as platforming more progressive candidates. Whether you think that’s a risk or not is irrelevant, because the fact is that the DNC views it as a risk and will only do it willingly if they’re not afraid it might threaten their chances of gaining or maintaining a majority.
People keep saying “You can’t vote your way out of fascism,” and maybe they’re right, especially once fascism has tightened its fist. This is still the early stages though, and frankly it’s unclear whether their hold is solid enough to contravene the electoral process.
And frankly nothing else is going to get us out of this either, because no nation in history, let alone a dictatorship, has ever had the surveillance technology, military capabilities, and militarized police forces to the degree that the US government does today. You’re not going to fight your way out of this, and it’s naïve to think you will. I’m not happy about that, but it’s the plain, simple truth.
Besides, until the midterms come and pass, and unless they’re either canceled, manipulated, or tampered with, or the results are ignored, then the fourth sentence of the Declaration of Independence takes precedence over the third and fifth sentences.
If any of those things happen with the elections, then that would trigger the third and fifth sentences, but until then stop telling people the midterms are hopeless.
The simple truth is this shouldn’t have happened. People have been passive about the amount of money in politics and the rise in power of the billionaires. This denial has enabled a monster of. Situation.
I’m not sure they’re mad. They’re just afraid. They’re afraid to become a target. They’re afraid that you’re right and they are contributing to the end of humanity. They are afraid they won’t be able to get ripe oranges in February. But until it directly affects their daily lives, they’re content to turtle up and ride it out.