I’m happy to welcome immigrants who want to make better lives for themselves, if they want to work hard and buy into the American dream that we all want to see succeed. If they want to take advantage or disrupt the system for their own benefit (to the detriment of the system or others), or if they don’t follow the laws, then they should be expelled.
These veiled reactionary takes are stale. The overwhelming majority of immigrants fit the bill. To frame this in terms of immigration is to effectively suggest a preference only for home grown American criminals.
Are you pointing out that illegal immigrants are criminals by definition because they are here illegally? Or are you asking why citizen criminals shouldn’t also be deported?
I’m saying that the framing of this response is intrinsically reactionary, if not xenophobic. Criminality itself is rare. Americans themselves are vastly more prone to criminality. And the ideals of the American system, for better and worse, are forwarded only by Americans themselves, and not their guests. If this is about public decency, following laws, and participating in the system, then the call comes from inside the house. “Crime should be punished” is the accepted way of the world. There’s no point in stating it, we take it for granted as part of the ‘civilized world’. For some reason this needs reiterated in the context of immigration, however? Evidence suggests if anything this is of less concern when discussing immigrants, yet it needs restated?
Maybe more simply, it reads, “I don’t trust 'em”. There’s a type of person who says that kind of thing.
I’m happy to welcome immigrants who want to make better lives for themselves, if they want to work hard and buy into the American dream that we all want to see succeed. If they want to take advantage or disrupt the system for their own benefit (to the detriment of the system or others), or if they don’t follow the laws, then they should be expelled.
These veiled reactionary takes are stale. The overwhelming majority of immigrants fit the bill. To frame this in terms of immigration is to effectively suggest a preference only for home grown American criminals.
Are you pointing out that illegal immigrants are criminals by definition because they are here illegally? Or are you asking why citizen criminals shouldn’t also be deported?
I’m saying that the framing of this response is intrinsically reactionary, if not xenophobic. Criminality itself is rare. Americans themselves are vastly more prone to criminality. And the ideals of the American system, for better and worse, are forwarded only by Americans themselves, and not their guests. If this is about public decency, following laws, and participating in the system, then the call comes from inside the house. “Crime should be punished” is the accepted way of the world. There’s no point in stating it, we take it for granted as part of the ‘civilized world’. For some reason this needs reiterated in the context of immigration, however? Evidence suggests if anything this is of less concern when discussing immigrants, yet it needs restated?
Maybe more simply, it reads, “I don’t trust 'em”. There’s a type of person who says that kind of thing.
The framing is because of the context of this conversation. Also that’s a lot of words for a whattabout and an implication of racism.
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What does this mean?
The problem is entering illegally is against the law, although it’s just a misdemeanor offense.