• melfie@lemy.lol
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    No reasonable person has an issue with legal immigration, though plenty of unreasonable ones do. As far as illegal immigration goes, even Bernie Sanders said that a country without borders is not a country and that open borders is a Koch bothers idea.

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      He also advocates for comprehensive immigration reform, probably because it wasn’t cool closing the door you and your ancestors used to get in.

      It would also be like, legit the best if the US stopped fucking around with other nations, at the least the ones in latin America where most undocumented immigrants come from… likely because of the lack of stable governments over the last century has made those places difficult to live in.

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        Agreed, the U.S. has looked the other way as people came in illegally or overstayed their visas to be exploited for cheap labor while also starting regime change wars to plunder the resources from countries many illegal immigrants are fleeing as a direct result. All of this is for the benefit of the billionaire cabal, who relish in the fact that average citizens blame the people fleeing war-torn nations in search of a better life just as they themselves would be doing.

        A nation without borders isn’t a nation, but border enforcement and deportation address the symptoms and not the root cause. Actually, we’d be way better off deporting all the billionaires.

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          All countries need dissidents to stay there and change things for the better. Allowing all dissidents to leave inept countries for America is just hurting the inept countries in the long run.

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            List of US sponsored coup d’etat

            ​Hawaii: 1893 ​Panama: 1903 ​Nicaragua: 1909–1912 ​Mexico: 1913 ​Haiti: 1915 ​Dominican Republic: 1916 ​Cuba: 1934 ​Syria: 1949 ​Iran: 1953 ​Guatemala: 1954 ​South Vietnam: 1960–1963 ​Congo (Leopoldville): 1960–1965 ​Dominican Republic: 1961 ​Iraq: 1963 ​Brazil: 1964 ​Indonesia: 1965 ​Ghana: 1966 ​Cambodia: 1970 ​Bolivia: 1971 ​Chile: 1973 ​Argentina: 1976 ​Grenada: 1983 ​Panama: 1989 ​Haiti: 1991 & 2004 ​Afghanistan: 2001 ​Venezuela: 2002 (Attempted) ​Iraq: 2003 ​Honduras: 2009 ​Libya: 2011 ​Ukraine: 2014 (Disputed/Supported) ​Bolivia: 2019 ​Venezuela: 2026 (Operation Absolute Resolve) ​Hawaii: 1893 ​Panama: 1903 ​Nicaragua: 1909–1912 ​Mexico: 1913 ​Haiti: 1915 ​Dominican Republic: 1916 ​Cuba: 1934 ​Syria: 1949 ​Iran: 1953 ​Guatemala: 1954 ​South Vietnam: 1960–1963 ​Congo (Leopoldville): 1960–1965 ​Dominican Republic: 1961 ​Iraq: 1963 ​Brazil: 1964 ​Indonesia: 1965 ​Ghana: 1966 ​Cambodia: 1970 ​Bolivia: 1971 ​Chile: 1973 ​Argentina: 1976 ​Grenada: 1983 ​Panama: 1989 ​Haiti: 1991 & 2004 ​Afghanistan: 2001 ​Venezuela: 2002 (Attempted) ​Iraq: 2003 ​Honduras: 2009 ​Libya: 2011 ​Ukraine: 2014 (Disputed/Supported) ​Bolivia: 2019 ​Venezuela: 2026 (Operation Absolute Resolve)

            Why don’t you change your country’s behavior first?