I’m familiar with the poster and the origins of the Iron Front. You’re not adding anything to the conversation.
Just because you bought a package with mixed patches doesn’t mean anything
When you click that floppy disk in Word, do you actually think you’re saving your document to an actual floppy disk? I’d certainly hope not.
You’re missing the point of what I’m saying. I’m asserting that the original intent of the Three Arrows symbol is far enough removed from its modern usage that the meaning of the symbol has abstracted to a generic anti-fascist symbol.
Many anti-fascists today also use the logo of Antifaschistische Aktion, an explicitly Marxist-Leninist paramilitary group. That’s the one with the two flags. Sometimes Anarchists will change the semiotics of the symbol, by making the flag in front black, to signal their specific ideological commitments.
But you don’t see people coming out of the woodwork saying “Urm Akchually! That symbol wasn’t originally meant to mean that”. Because the symbol’s meaning, like the Three Arrows, or the floppy disk, have been renegotiated as the world around those symbols has changed.
So you’re saying that because people use the AntiFa logo by adapting the flag colors to reflect their political ideology according to the intended and understood meaning of said logo, that if makes sense to use an anti-extremist (left and right) logo?
And because the floppy is now and then still a symbol of saving something on your storage medium, like it always used to?
The three arrows are a centrist antifascist and anti communist logo. Use it, if you want, but don’t be surprised if people will understand what the symbol is meant to transport. That you’re opposing Nazis and Communists.
I really can’t grasp how you stand here saying “symbols don’t have meanings anymore, because I bought it in a bundle on Amazon”. You’re like the guy that wears a Che T-shirt and doesn’t know anything about what he achieved, and what his goals were.
I’m familiar with the poster and the origins of the Iron Front. You’re not adding anything to the conversation.
When you click that floppy disk in Word, do you actually think you’re saving your document to an actual floppy disk? I’d certainly hope not.
You’re missing the point of what I’m saying. I’m asserting that the original intent of the Three Arrows symbol is far enough removed from its modern usage that the meaning of the symbol has abstracted to a generic anti-fascist symbol.
Many anti-fascists today also use the logo of Antifaschistische Aktion, an explicitly Marxist-Leninist paramilitary group. That’s the one with the two flags. Sometimes Anarchists will change the semiotics of the symbol, by making the flag in front black, to signal their specific ideological commitments.
But you don’t see people coming out of the woodwork saying “Urm Akchually! That symbol wasn’t originally meant to mean that”. Because the symbol’s meaning, like the Three Arrows, or the floppy disk, have been renegotiated as the world around those symbols has changed.
I don’t think this is difficult to grasp
Hey, my dude I actually did come here and say “this is the iron front logo”
So you’re saying that because people use the AntiFa logo by adapting the flag colors to reflect their political ideology according to the intended and understood meaning of said logo, that if makes sense to use an anti-extremist (left and right) logo?
And because the floppy is now and then still a symbol of saving something on your storage medium, like it always used to?
The three arrows are a centrist antifascist and anti communist logo. Use it, if you want, but don’t be surprised if people will understand what the symbol is meant to transport. That you’re opposing Nazis and Communists.
I really can’t grasp how you stand here saying “symbols don’t have meanings anymore, because I bought it in a bundle on Amazon”. You’re like the guy that wears a Che T-shirt and doesn’t know anything about what he achieved, and what his goals were.