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Log in | Sign up@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 19 hours ago

We can reverse America’s decline | Bernie Sanders

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We can reverse America’s decline | Bernie Sanders

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    Why do I keep seeing people on here call Bernie a liberal zionist?

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      I think he supports 2 state solution, right? So some people consider that a form of Zionism. Which seems a bit questionable because I believe that has also been Hamas’s position for the last few years, although they don’t call it that.

      Maybe there’s more to it. To be honest I’m not overly worried about the exact positions of one of the more outspoken critics of Israel in congress. I’d much rather focus my ire on its defenders, which are many.

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        He don’t believe that zionism is a colonial project and said that bds is antisemitic

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      This is Lemmy. There are extreme left here. So left that they kind of horseshoe back towards the right again.

      Also, I’ve definitely seen your username here for a while. I’m sure you know this by now.

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        Horseshoe theory is a psyop. It’s not a thing.

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          It’s a thing, it’s just inaccurate — that doesn’t change the hard facts that both sides somehow find their way to differently flavored authoritarianism.

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          Unsure if edgy sarcasm or ML propaganda… Please disambiguate.

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            No more ML propaganda than the idea of horseshoe theory is CIA propaganda.

            Also, ML propaganda? lol

            Are still counting your age using “teen” at the end?

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              Thanks for disambiguating! :)

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                Di nada.

                Also, no reason to use your 25 cent word of the day more than once. No one is impressed twice by its use.

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          Why did you just say that?

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            Best guess? They’re either truly dedicated satirists, gone off the metamodernist deep end into deep post-irony, or they’ve genuinely decided that modernist Grand Narratives weren’t really all that bad (let’s just ignore all the atrocities they brought about). After all, far-left modernist narratives aren’t at all like those other, far-right modernist narratives! They’re different, just like everybody else who is selling a utopia (that’s only practically attainable through an authoritarian regime).

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            ‘Horseshoe theory’ is nonsense – the far right and far left have little in common

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              Yes. I mean, the only thing they have in common is they are part of the human political spectrum…

              It truly boggles my mind that people don’t understand enough about politics and propaganda to realize this.

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                We’re not indoctrinated with this theory for no reason. Anti-communist propaganda serves bourgeois interests.

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              They only have little in common if you’re unimaginative.

              Or one of them.

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                “Unscratched” liberals have much more in common with fascists than socialists.

                • Fascism: Now You See It, Now You Don’t!
                • Liberalism and Fascism: Partners in Crime
                • The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discreetly Internationalized It
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                One day you might look back on this and laugh at all the CIA propaganda you believed was true.

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                  Oooohhh, spooky! 👻

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                    If you paid a visit to the CIA website and read through all of the FOIA stuff they admit to you might not be so flippant.

                    I mean, you might be, I don’t know who pays you…

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        That’s a Ken M type account. Go with it.

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          I used to play golf with Ken M.

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            Did he bring tree branches instead of clubs?

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              Who?

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                Ken M.

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                  Oh.

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                    No, no. Ken M.

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                Ken M

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                  Oh

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      Because he is

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        Yeah anyone who isn’t a fraud must be a zionist.

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      Because he’s American

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        Oh honey if you think Americans invented liberal Zionism have I got news for you.

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