this is america - don’t think because they refused to press that there was no nonsense at foot. heck, even an accidental discharge should result in time. mind you, with guns, there is no such thing as an accident.
Guy should get in trouble for what happened. But it’s not reasonable to frame this like “we know he intentionally shot his daughter because of her views on Trump.” And don’t get me wrong, fuck trump and fuck maga.
don’t think because they refused to press that there was no nonsense at foot
The argument presented by the Tweet varies enormously from the facts of the case. They didn’t even get the fucking date right. She was shot in January of 2025, not 2026.
You’re getting the internet gossip fifth hand while dismissing the legal decisions of this woman’s friends and neighbors because… America bad?
I agree that including a link to credible news sources is crucial. It’s also important to cite the facts as presented, then be clear when posting your own opinion or inserting misdirection such as “there were witnesses”.
Facts:
There was a heated argument prior to the shooting.
The shooter had implied, earlier in the day, that he would not care if the victim was assaulted because “I have other daughters”.
The victim disliked guns and had not asked to see the gun, despite the shooter’s claim to the contrary.
The victim was shot in the chest at medium range 15 seconds after she was pulled into a room with no witnesses.
There was a heated argument prior to the shooting.
Is false right out of the gate.
Sam Littler, Lucy’s boyfriend, who was with her on the trip, told the inquest she had become upset earlier that day after having “quite a big argument” with her father about Trump, who was due to be inaugurated as president later that month.
Lucy had asked her father: “How would you feel if I was the girl in that situation and I’d been sexually assaulted?”
He responded that it would not upset him that much.
She was upset. He was cavalier.
He said his girlfriend’s father had spoken in the past about taking the gun out of the box and walking around with it “like James Bond”.
He treated his gun like a toy and his daughter paid for his childish attitude with her life. There’s a story here, but nobody on Lemmy seems to want to read it. They want to believe this house became some kind of war zone. The biter truth is that he fucked up because he didn’t take gun ownership seriously.
And we aren’t allowed to question if the grand jury made a mistake?
You can do whatever you want. Speculate, guesstimate, do spirit fingers until you commune with the deceased.
Do you think the situation you are describing sounds like it might be manslaughter?
I’m not an attorney or a judge, so I’m not equipped to make this decision. Off the cuff, it feels like involuntary manslaughter. You’d have to ask the GJ why they decided otherwise.
But the social media posts and associated click-bait articles are describing it as capital murder. Nothing in the actual details of the case supports this.
God forbid anyone disagree with a judicial ruling! Oh wait, that’s our right as citizens of this country…
This guy sounds like someone that would say “you should have just compiled”.
this is america - don’t think because they refused to press that there was no nonsense at foot. heck, even an accidental discharge should result in time. mind you, with guns, there is no such thing as an accident.
“with guns, there is no such thing as an accident”? Negligent discharges happen all the time. It’s a reasonably big part of gun injury statistics: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7250a1.htm
Guy should get in trouble for what happened. But it’s not reasonable to frame this like “we know he intentionally shot his daughter because of her views on Trump.” And don’t get me wrong, fuck trump and fuck maga.
i am not considering negligence an accident, that’s my point.
The argument presented by the Tweet varies enormously from the facts of the case. They didn’t even get the fucking date right. She was shot in January of 2025, not 2026.
You’re getting the internet gossip fifth hand while dismissing the legal decisions of this woman’s friends and neighbors because… America bad?
I agree that including a link to credible news sources is crucial. It’s also important to cite the facts as presented, then be clear when posting your own opinion or inserting misdirection such as “there were witnesses”.
Facts:
Sources:
Is false right out of the gate.
She was upset. He was cavalier.
He treated his gun like a toy and his daughter paid for his childish attitude with her life. There’s a story here, but nobody on Lemmy seems to want to read it. They want to believe this house became some kind of war zone. The biter truth is that he fucked up because he didn’t take gun ownership seriously.
That’s not manslaughter?
Not according to the grand jury.
And we aren’t allowed to question if the grand jury made a mistake? If so everything else being discussed is pointless.
Do you think the situation you are describing sounds like it might be manslaughter? Enough that it is worth while to have a trial and find out?
You can do whatever you want. Speculate, guesstimate, do spirit fingers until you commune with the deceased.
I’m not an attorney or a judge, so I’m not equipped to make this decision. Off the cuff, it feels like involuntary manslaughter. You’d have to ask the GJ why they decided otherwise.
But the social media posts and associated click-bait articles are describing it as capital murder. Nothing in the actual details of the case supports this.
God forbid anyone disagree with a judicial ruling! Oh wait, that’s our right as citizens of this country… This guy sounds like someone that would say “you should have just compiled”.
Your only defense is saying “The GJ decided not to.”
Yes, we know. That is what people are complaining about.
Your posts literally read as “you can’t complain that the GJ decided not to move forward because the GJ decided not to move forward.”
The tweet is wrong, yes, but there are dozens of articles coming out in the past 3 days that correctly date the killing.
There are dozens of articles reprinting the same events with increasingly click-bait geared headlines and takes.
Every iteration gets farther and farther away from the facts of the case.