The very existence of a presidential pardon is bizarre and an insult to the judicial branch
Pardons aren’t the problem. They exist to provide an avenue for reprieve in cases where the law was applied in an unjust or unintended manner, which is not uncommon. The issue is that we let a corrupt, narcissistic piece of shit become President. Obviously he’s going to do terrible things with all the power available to him. It doesn’t mean the powers of the office are inherently bad, it means he is.
If one man can single-handedly do anything Trump has done without check or balance, the system does not work imo. Think of the worst person you ever knew. If you don’t want them wielding the power, there is too much concentrated power.
The rules have checks and balances. They just mean absolutely nothing when those who are supposed to use them don’t do their fucking jobs. Create more rules and they seemingly will just ignore them.
Look at the order to release the Epstein files? Look at how enough dems cave just to give Trump everything he wants.
It doesn’t end until people start being replaced or getting killed. That’s where America is at and there is plenty of examples from other nations guess this goes down. Time to start reading some new books
Ultimately, the rules work fine for what they were intended to do, which is prevent one branch of government from becoming much more powerful than the other two. However, they don’t work well against an entity like the Republican Party, which deliberately subverts multiple branches simultaneously. The rules against executive power have also been weakened over time due to congress ceding power to the president, something the founders hadn’t anticipated. They were prepared for greedy bastards that wanted to hoard power, but people giving power away to reduce their own responsibilities or achieve partisan goals was something they hadn’t even heard of.
Wow, one whole non-plural republican?
I mean, a small crack is detrimental to the whole. One today, maybe not another for a while, but a crack looks to be forming. Not a lot, but it’s something.
Don’t believe it to be a crack. Republicans (and Democrats too tbh) are experts at controlled opposition. Oppose or support something just enough to get a headline out of it but never enough to influence the outcome.
It’s enough to tip a house vote, so, yeah, it’s a big deal
Which means they need 3 more to pass it at a 51:49 but if Republicans filibuster then it becomes 12 more at 60:40EDIT: Amendments require 67. Also this is a house rep, not even a senator.
don’t amendments need 67 Senate votes?
Shit, that’s right, I was treating it like a regular law but that doesn’t apply here. 20 GOP and every DNC and IND in that case. Also this guy isn’t even a senator.
Giving Congress power to do stuff is a waste of fucking time. They have had the power to do many things and don’t. Even even is supposedly specifically THEIR power to wield they have let trump use it himself
Republican Representative Don Bacon of Nebraska
Anyway to reverse prior ones like the J6 terrorists?
How many crimes have they committed since (besides the crime of attacking our government over being butthurt about losing).
Find something new to charge them with - interstate travel to commit violence, or conspiracy to commit treason, or something.
Theoretically. You’d likely need to get a constitutional change pushed through to even achieve the headline, since the presidential pardon is granted by the constitution.
You’d also need to get a law on the books which would allow retroactive revocation of the previous pardons.
That would been to be veto proof, for obvious reasons.
Noice, they’re finally starting to cave. They must be realizing their grand plan to turn the USA into some white christian state has failed.
No that’s not it.
There are just a few left in the GOP that are smart enough to realize that the White “Christian” state that is developing isn’t going to put them on top like they thought it would…
A few is all you need.
Actually you need more than a few.
Remember, when push comes to shove, not a single Republican voted to remove him from office after he tried to kill them.
Yeah if 13 GOP senators turned coat they could pass whatever DNC bills they wanted and if 20 turned they could remove Trump and have their little lapdog Vance run the show, or replace them both with an interim acting president speaker of the house or senate.
They have 53 total but it wouldn’t even take 2/5ths to change everything.
Its Don Bacon. He still sides with Trump 99% of time, and is only doing this because he already announced he isn’t seeking a new term.
The bill was introduced by Rep. Johnny Olszewski (D-MD) last December and would allow for a minimum of 20 House members and five senators to call for congressional review of a pardon, which would lead to a 60-day deadline for Congress to nullify that pardon with a two-thirds majority vote – similar to a veto override.
Listen, I think it’s great that we’re breaking the taboo of pardons being somehow sacrosanct.
But there’s exactly one person I can think of that would get 2/3rd of the Congress off their assess to block clemency against.
I’m just sad that the bill isn’t written specifically to be able to block trump’s pardons.
