How is wanting absolute equality (not equity) fascist? All I want is everyone to be treated equally and at the moment its me who’s getting the short end of the stick.
The reason your argument is fascist brainwashing propaganda is because it ignores the hundreds of years of discrimination and disenfranchisement that groups of people have suffered under the racial caste system of settler colonialist capitalism with white working class men acting as the enforcers of oppression. This system was created by the capitalist class but we are all oppressed by this system. The capitalist class wants you to feel anger and rage towards the people below you in the heirarchy and your rage reinforces the oppressive system keeping us all down. What the pedofile parasite capitalist class doesn’t want you to do is punch up so just keep punching down while they rob us blind and steal our future for the pedofile parasite class because it’s a class war and billions are being spent to radicalize young men to uphold their system of oppression on the working class
Lol no you’re not getting the short end of the stick. Yes, DEI shouldn’t be a thing in an ideal world, but we don’t live in an ideal world and white privilege is still a thing basically anywhere in the world.
Lol no you’re not getting the short end of the stick.
I had more I now have less because what I used to have is being reallocated to other people who are less skilled/capable than myself.
Yes, DEI shouldn’t be a thing in an ideal world
Glad we agree
but we don’t live in an ideal world
So ur idea to fight systemaric bias is to introduce more systematic bias? That’s like saying the best way to defeat the systematic bias by the Nazis is to become a fascist regime and send all German citizens to concentration camps. That’s fucking insane.
and white privilege is still a thing basically anywhere in the world.
I’m not privileged cos I’m white I’m privileged cos my parents are well off and they got me highly educated, are involved in my life, care about me, love me, and I was born in Australia. None of that has anything to do with the colour of my skin. Unless ur implying that nonwhite people are poor, uneducated, and have unloving parents because of the colour of their skin. That’s racist as fuck bro.
No problem addressed by dei is caused by identity. I have no problem with socialised services for those who got unlucky. I have a problem with that being allocated based upon identity.
I think the libertarian way of thinking of liberty applies very effectively here: you should have the liberty to do whatever u want on the condition it does not reduce the net total liberty of society. Giving poor people food, water, housing, education, etc (essentially general necessities to produce productive members of society) does not reduce total net liberty it increases it. Taking an opportunity away from me and giving it to someone else based on the colour of their skin does not increase liberty. The number of opportunities remain the same, it causes less qualified people to have positions despite more qualified alternatives being willing and available. It also has a byproduct of enforcing racist/sexist/homophobic grouping and thinking.
You talk as if DEI has tipped the scales in the other direction because you experienced a few inconveniences, but in reality it’s not enough to balance them. You’re only talking about what you experience, but you have no thought for others. Which I actually can understand, it’s hard to relate to things you don’t experience and probably not even see (I don’t), but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
I’m getting fucked by dei and immigration both at the hands of billionaires. But your gonna excuse those actions by billionaires because its pushing a narrative you cannot deviate from without being excommunicated from ur little hive mind.
Dei:
Their is a set quantity (with minor variations) of jobs, opportunities, wealth, etc. Those resources should be offered to the person most qualified ie egalitarianism. Dei by definition fails at doing this it reallocates resources from those who are most qualified to other people based on their identity (race, religion, sexuality etc) dei requires and thus enforces racism, sexism, homophobia etc, etc.
Immigration:
Economics 101 outlines the laws of supply demand. Immigration increases the supply of labour and increases the demand on goods and services. Thus the value of labour drops and the value of goods and services increases. The end result of this is lower wages and higher cost of living. This is exactly what u want if you are part of the bourgeois ownership class and the opposite to what everyone else wants.
We have statistics to prove that immigrants commit higher levels of crime and cost more in terms of welfare.
That’s not to say I dislike all immigration as we can very easily tell from the statistics that certain classes of immigrants actually commit less crime and contribute more to economic prosperity.
If you study economics deeper than 101 you learn that supply-and-demand is mostly a fantasy in the modern age and the problem is oligarchal control and lack of regulations.
But both of your issues boil down to the same point: there are more people than there are useful jobs. The solution is not more jobs or fewer people, it’s decoupling productivity from food and housing. Anything else is admitting that a permanent underclass of jobless, homeless people must exist as an implicit threat against the working class if they get too uppity.
Also, immigrants commit less crime on average and get less in government benefits than citizens. Your “statistics” (that you did not even cite) are made up right-wing xenophobic propaganda.
If you study economics deeper than 101 you learn that supply-and-demand is mostly a fantasy in the modern age and the problem is oligarchal control and lack of regulations.
Your starting to sound like Marx here. You are right for a small subset of monopolised markets mainly due to regulations that are used to lock out competitors.
But both of your issues boil down to the same point: there are more people than there are useful jobs.
Yep
The solution is not more jobs or fewer people, it’s decoupling productivity from food and housing.
Yeah so let’s just reorganise society into a socialist paradise. We live under a capitalist system, under said system my argument holds. It is not your right to receive anything that requires the labour of another human being. It is not your right to require someone to go to work and make ur food for u or build ur house. Plus the classic argument against communist policy applies here why would I wanna be the guy farming or building houses when I could do nothing an get someone else to do it for me? Your system requires an underclass of slave labour be that robotic, human, or underpaid illegal immigrant.
Anything else is admitting that a permanent underclass of jobless, homeless people must exist as an implicit threat against the working class if they get too uppity.
Yeah people need a reason to contribute to society. I contribute cos its making me ungodly rich, granting me extreme liberty, and allowing me to build a better world for when I have children. But some people are lazy, useless, low intelligence imbeciles who need the threat of a low quality of life to give them to kick to get off their ass and do something for society. Which of course raises the question what is that minimum standard. I would say the minimum standard is u get a 3m*3m box with a bed, shitter and shower, u get 3 meals of engineered tasteless grey goo with plain water. Thats the bottom rung of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs taken care of anything more is on u.
Also, immigrants commit less crime on average and get less in government benefits than citizens. Your “statistics” (that you did not even cite) are made up right-wing xenophobic propaganda.
Wrong. Official DHS/ICE data shows 81,312 removable noncitizens arrested in FY2024 with prior convictions—totaling 57k assaults, 18k sex offenses, 12k homicides/manslaughters—highlighting a massive crime burden from illegal immigrants.On benefits: CIS analysis of 2024 Census SIPP data—immigrant-headed households use welfare at 53% (61% for illegal-headed) vs. 37% for native-born, draining billions in Medicaid/SNAP/EITC often via U.S.-born kids.These are from federal reports and Census surveys, not “propaganda.” Cite yours?
Why are you talking in 3rd person like you’re not one of these milquetoast white never gonna do jack shit pussy fascists when we know you are?
How is wanting absolute equality (not equity) fascist? All I want is everyone to be treated equally and at the moment its me who’s getting the short end of the stick.
The reason your argument is fascist brainwashing propaganda is because it ignores the hundreds of years of discrimination and disenfranchisement that groups of people have suffered under the racial caste system of settler colonialist capitalism with white working class men acting as the enforcers of oppression. This system was created by the capitalist class but we are all oppressed by this system. The capitalist class wants you to feel anger and rage towards the people below you in the heirarchy and your rage reinforces the oppressive system keeping us all down. What the pedofile parasite capitalist class doesn’t want you to do is punch up so just keep punching down while they rob us blind and steal our future for the pedofile parasite class because it’s a class war and billions are being spent to radicalize young men to uphold their system of oppression on the working class
Lol no you’re not getting the short end of the stick. Yes, DEI shouldn’t be a thing in an ideal world, but we don’t live in an ideal world and white privilege is still a thing basically anywhere in the world.
I had more I now have less because what I used to have is being reallocated to other people who are less skilled/capable than myself.
Glad we agree
So ur idea to fight systemaric bias is to introduce more systematic bias? That’s like saying the best way to defeat the systematic bias by the Nazis is to become a fascist regime and send all German citizens to concentration camps. That’s fucking insane.
I’m not privileged cos I’m white I’m privileged cos my parents are well off and they got me highly educated, are involved in my life, care about me, love me, and I was born in Australia. None of that has anything to do with the colour of my skin. Unless ur implying that nonwhite people are poor, uneducated, and have unloving parents because of the colour of their skin. That’s racist as fuck bro.
No problem addressed by dei is caused by identity. I have no problem with socialised services for those who got unlucky. I have a problem with that being allocated based upon identity.
I think the libertarian way of thinking of liberty applies very effectively here: you should have the liberty to do whatever u want on the condition it does not reduce the net total liberty of society. Giving poor people food, water, housing, education, etc (essentially general necessities to produce productive members of society) does not reduce total net liberty it increases it. Taking an opportunity away from me and giving it to someone else based on the colour of their skin does not increase liberty. The number of opportunities remain the same, it causes less qualified people to have positions despite more qualified alternatives being willing and available. It also has a byproduct of enforcing racist/sexist/homophobic grouping and thinking.
You talk as if DEI has tipped the scales in the other direction because you experienced a few inconveniences, but in reality it’s not enough to balance them. You’re only talking about what you experience, but you have no thought for others. Which I actually can understand, it’s hard to relate to things you don’t experience and probably not even see (I don’t), but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
If you’re getting the short end of the stick, you should be mad at the billionaires who are stealing from you.
But I’m sure you voted for Republicans because they successfully pointed your anger at black and Hispanic people instead.
I’m getting fucked by dei and immigration both at the hands of billionaires. But your gonna excuse those actions by billionaires because its pushing a narrative you cannot deviate from without being excommunicated from ur little hive mind.
Explain to us how you’ve been fucked by DEI and immigration, we’re all ears.
Sure thing.
Dei: Their is a set quantity (with minor variations) of jobs, opportunities, wealth, etc. Those resources should be offered to the person most qualified ie egalitarianism. Dei by definition fails at doing this it reallocates resources from those who are most qualified to other people based on their identity (race, religion, sexuality etc) dei requires and thus enforces racism, sexism, homophobia etc, etc.
Immigration: Economics 101 outlines the laws of supply demand. Immigration increases the supply of labour and increases the demand on goods and services. Thus the value of labour drops and the value of goods and services increases. The end result of this is lower wages and higher cost of living. This is exactly what u want if you are part of the bourgeois ownership class and the opposite to what everyone else wants.
We have statistics to prove that immigrants commit higher levels of crime and cost more in terms of welfare.
That’s not to say I dislike all immigration as we can very easily tell from the statistics that certain classes of immigrants actually commit less crime and contribute more to economic prosperity.
All that to say you haven’t been fucked by DEI or immigration correct? But thanks for the wildly ignorant hypotheticals 👌
An explanation of ones argument is required a claim that ur original point was correct is not evidence in support of your opinion.
And what’s my opinion again?
If you study economics deeper than 101 you learn that supply-and-demand is mostly a fantasy in the modern age and the problem is oligarchal control and lack of regulations.
But both of your issues boil down to the same point: there are more people than there are useful jobs. The solution is not more jobs or fewer people, it’s decoupling productivity from food and housing. Anything else is admitting that a permanent underclass of jobless, homeless people must exist as an implicit threat against the working class if they get too uppity.
Also, immigrants commit less crime on average and get less in government benefits than citizens. Your “statistics” (that you did not even cite) are made up right-wing xenophobic propaganda.
Your starting to sound like Marx here. You are right for a small subset of monopolised markets mainly due to regulations that are used to lock out competitors.
Yep
Yeah so let’s just reorganise society into a socialist paradise. We live under a capitalist system, under said system my argument holds. It is not your right to receive anything that requires the labour of another human being. It is not your right to require someone to go to work and make ur food for u or build ur house. Plus the classic argument against communist policy applies here why would I wanna be the guy farming or building houses when I could do nothing an get someone else to do it for me? Your system requires an underclass of slave labour be that robotic, human, or underpaid illegal immigrant.
Yeah people need a reason to contribute to society. I contribute cos its making me ungodly rich, granting me extreme liberty, and allowing me to build a better world for when I have children. But some people are lazy, useless, low intelligence imbeciles who need the threat of a low quality of life to give them to kick to get off their ass and do something for society. Which of course raises the question what is that minimum standard. I would say the minimum standard is u get a 3m*3m box with a bed, shitter and shower, u get 3 meals of engineered tasteless grey goo with plain water. Thats the bottom rung of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs taken care of anything more is on u.
Wrong. Official DHS/ICE data shows 81,312 removable noncitizens arrested in FY2024 with prior convictions—totaling 57k assaults, 18k sex offenses, 12k homicides/manslaughters—highlighting a massive crime burden from illegal immigrants.On benefits: CIS analysis of 2024 Census SIPP data—immigrant-headed households use welfare at 53% (61% for illegal-headed) vs. 37% for native-born, draining billions in Medicaid/SNAP/EITC often via U.S.-born kids.These are from federal reports and Census surveys, not “propaganda.” Cite yours?