The line Joe Biden used to put into nearly every big speech — “I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future” — is a long way from what he says in private now.The line Joe Biden used to put into nearly every big speech — “I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future” — is a long way from what he says in private now.
These days, multiple people who’ve spoken to him over the last year say, Biden often punctuates conversations with: “You think we can actually come back from this?”
The 83-year-old Biden continues to feel out a post-presidency that may prove to be one of the shortest in history and is already one of the most complicated.
There are days when Biden is heartbroken, indignant or in disbelief about what is happening as President Donald Trump — the man he defeated in 2020 — returned and moved not just to tear down his accomplishments, but to dig in with petty insults like the autopen photograph he put in Biden’s spot in the “Presidential Walk of Fame” installed at the White House.
God that argument is so disengenuous. It basically comes to “cater to us a vocal minority or we won’t play.”
You leftists scream about the genocide but what exactly did you accomish? Smugness? Superiority? I haven’t heard a single leftist give a shit about South Sudan or Myanmar. Leftists are quiet when it comes to Ukraine. But you’re incredibly loud about Gaza… you know, the crater where a people used to live because the crap candidate didn’t capitulate to your demands.
Well now everything is fucked, the US has zero creditability, our allies hate us, ICE is officially the Gestapo, and concentration camps are being built.
But hey. Continue the tired ass line about “well we should have had a candidate who was against the genocide.”
Fun fact. Historically, when fascists take control, the first ones they try to stamp out is leftists.
But at least you can sleep at night now knowing that because you didn’t vote for genocide, you now allowed one to be completed with impunity.
Well done tankies.
Edit: Joe Biden was a fucking pussy who didn’t do what needed to be done.
If this was any normal election, then I would have supported the protest voters.
The problem was that it wasn’t. Trump is trying to ethnically cleanse Latinos out of America. I knew this was going to happen and I wanted to avoid it.
Immigrants were pleading with protest voters during the election. There are Latinos who protested with them from the beginning that have now gone into hiding. I talked to an immigrant that was begging leftists to care, and they accused them of being for genocide just for wanting their family to survive.
It’s not that I hate leftism. But a lot of leftists are unsafe for POC and women. They are privileged enough to prioritize ideals over safety. I only trust leftists that are intersectional, not those who champion some mythical homogeneous global working class.
This guy gets it. And I’m still waiting for a leftist to acknowledge South Sudan.
Here I am, you can stop waiting fool
And…? So let’s see the same amount of Gaza energy on that.
You seem upset people are worked up about wanting a Genocide to stop in Gaza and it is confusing.
Yes cool, lets get some more energy, why would I not be in favor of more awareness about human rights crisises?..?
For being a minority we seem to hold all the power
Schrödinger’s anti-genocide vote. Simultaneously able to have determined the outcome of an entire election, but also not important enough of a coalition to address their concerns and bring them (back) into the tent.
Glad you think a slide into fascism is a joke.
I think DNC centrist clownshow leadership and constant failure at everything they touch is a joke. A sad one, but a joke nonetheless. At least they got paid by the zionists for selling us all out. Taking bribes sure wasnt a joke, was it u/Devolution?
The only joke jokier that that is your continued warpath in support of them.
This country has been fascist. Liberals bury their heads in the sand when it’s their team doing it
AP News 6 hours ago: Americans’ sympathies in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict have shifted dramatically, new poll shows
You’re heads in the sand thinking this is a minority extremist position. The people advocating for this saw where the winds were blowing and your ego still can’t acknowledge it.
I’m sure they appreciate the change in sympathies from the world.
Oh wait.
Wait is the point you are trying to make right now that less Palestinians would have died under Harris?
It is denial, it is shocking to these people that what they had minimized as annoying whiny leftist nitpicking was the largest geopolitical event happening on earth in terms of impact.
Would you want to be in their shoes? That isn’t just a marker of cluelessness and intellectual incompetence, it is damning to their very soul.
Going to war with Iran today and still the Democratic leadership is in lock step with Trump. This was something they all wanted and they are giddy Trump will take the heat for it.
Going to take away their staggering momentum going into midterms and it will some how be leftists fault again lol.
What did you reactionary centrists accomplish? You handed us Trump. We gave you the path to winning and you chose not to take it. Its on you.
Yeah, your fucking fault dude.
You couldn’t win the election otherwise. Did you actually want to win the election or not? Because it follows that if you defended the candidate while they held an unelectable policy position, you were doing the work to get Trump elected.
Leftists rarely show up anyways. But hey. Continue to shift the blame. Whining and doing nothing is what you do best.
Source your evidence liar
Not my burden. Show yours that they do.
I’m not shifting the blame. I’ve always blamed fake “centrists” (read: reactionary rightwing voters who wear a blue hat) for losing the election. Its your fault.
Did you want to win the election or not? Because there was a path to doing so: The candidate needed to change their policy on Gaza.
We show up, we just don’t vote for POS parties
So you don’t show up. Got it.
Didnt show up for you, that’s what you are upset about. Liberals hate leftists because we refuse to drag ourselves to the right with you, you want the confirmation that what you are doing is right and we won’t give it to you, because what you are doing is wrong
Its interesting how “we told you this would lose” equates to "you will lose because you alienate leftists.
The reality is voter apathy and a majority of the population choosing not to vote because they see no difference between the outcome regardless of who wins.
Democrats will do the same shit to appease Their donor bosses, they just feel a little bit of shame about the means they think justify those ends. Thats why youll never hear libs talking about somthing like abolishing ice, only better training them so they have less collateral damage.
The people who don’t see a difference are fucking morons. Biden never invaded any US cities.
Yes, dude the majority of American voters are morons. The people in this thread you are arguing against are not the same group, we are trying to advocate how to engage that moronic majority.
Advocate for policies that impact their life. Spending billions on Isreal, to fund their genocide or not, instead of domestically is a huge issue that people care about. Pointing out the genocide was pointing to the way the wind was blowing for public support.
ml is full of people who were advocating not voting because Harris wouldn’t condemn Israel loudly enough. Yes, it would be great to focus on improving the lives of Americans but there’s zero chance of that while republicans have a trifecta. Democrats can at least be pressured into doing the right thing sometimes.
Your comment reads like you think I’m a DNC strategist or something. I can’t directly control their messaging, but I can try to point out to people that by the time November comes around there are only two possible outcomes and having a hissy fit about Gaza is only going to make the world a worse place and that “I can’t vote for genocide” just helped the guy who is gleefully embracing all the genocides.
No I don’t think you’re an operative, but what I see (not just from you but plenty of people in online discourse) is excusing the actions of the Democratic party solely because Trump is bad.
The point that I will continue to shout from the top of the mountains, is that lesser evilism as a political strategy only enables fascism. We cannot counter its rise and current prevalence by just being slightly better. It takes bold impactful direction on how to improve people’s lives to energize and engage the population.
The average voter doesn’t care if a leader gleefully embraces genocide or just tactically enables genocide to fuel the military industrial complex. The outcome of wasted tax dollars to kill children is still the same. When we enable fascism abroad it always comes back to be used against us. We can see that with local police forces training with the IDF. Imperial Boomerang.
“Well at least democrats aren’t killing Americans” inevitably is the next step of justification. But here’s the thing, democrats don’t use their opportunities to de-miltarize domestic law enforcement. They are responsible for co-opting and killing 2020 BLM demands. They are responsible for folding during the 2025 government shut down and fully funding ICE.
We deserve better. It’s okay to say so. It’s necessary for us to demand it. You and I are not ideological enemies (I would hope).
.ml thinks Russia is liberating Ukraine they don’t mind that genocide.
Stop lazily gesturing towards a stereotype of someone to avoid engaging with them.
It’s not any more of a stereotype then making claims about centrists.
So by your logic you are admitting you have no evidence of the massive claim you just made?
True, but they like to complain about it. If Harris had pledged to defend Gaza they would have just found some other excuse.
No, that would have made all the difference in the world, Harris would have won.
I doubt it.
They were looking for any excuse to not vote for her. The fact that the wedge issue they picked is still worse off under Trump is evidence they never really cared about it in the first place. If they actually cared about Gaza, voting for Harris as the imperfect but better and more readily influenced candidate would have been the right answer.
If she had said the right words on Gaza they would have moved to not being good enough on trans rights or something.
You are wasting your time my friend, these people will endlessly perform mental gymnastics to overcomplicate this into being something more than harm reduction.
Obama was the one who started building some of the camps both biden and trump use to imprison migrants. Tell that to all the people whos relatives they deported.
This is what i mean by no differnce in outcome, because yeah sure the dems are more sly about it, they dont “invade” cities, they let the state governments handle delpoying cops against protests, but they still fund the same agencies with the same agendas, they just have more competency about how to do it without making as much noise.