If we can’t be bothered to vote in the primaries, wjy would anyone believe us that a progressive candidate would somehow lure millions more to vote?

As I know the comments will be, uhhh, fun, I’ve turned off reply notifications.

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    All you really need to know is every red candidate is objectively a worse person and worse for America and the world than any blue candidate. That’s not to say that the blues are particularly good, but if you have the choice of getting punch in the mouth or shot in the face, you choose to live another day.

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      I choose to not either get punched in the mouth nor shot in the face.

      Sad, that at this rate, if these are the only two options left, then gimme a knife and I’ll slit my own throat.

      I do not care to live in a world where peace isn’t an option, but thanks for laying out the terms of red/blue for me.

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        A choice to not participate is a choice to get shot in the face and to get others shot in the face as well. If you’re okay with that, then that’s on you and really tells what you stand for. It’s not just a self choice, it’s a selfish choice that directly hurts others.

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          Oh, so you think it’s justified to shoot non-voters in the face?

          I see your true personality now, you are not of peace, you are for war.

          Well done, you’ve shown me your true colors.

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            Not at all, I never said anything about any violence being justified. I’m saying that not participating hurts others, not just you. I don’t want anyone hurt, but there are two choices in the US general election, and one is always worse than the other for everyone but the wealthy.

            Getting shot or punched was a metaphor. The point being that red is bad, blue is less bad, and choosing neither directly benefits the red. So long as there are racists, bigots, and other people that just hate demographics for no reason, the world won’t be a place of peace. In all of history it never has been. We can get closer to peace by voting for people that aren’t pedophiles and war mongers. Not participating in that effort is a choice you can make, you’re and adult, and you have enough of the facts to make a semi informed choice. Nobody can make you, we can just help educate you on the pros and cons of these choices.

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              Well then you should watch your words, because I quote you directly…

              You said… “A choice to not participate is a choice to get shot in the face”

              You’re just further showing your true colors.

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                  I’d rather be the nice stranger on the side of the road helping you change your flat tire than to be thrown into the mix of blind color voting.

                  Even with that said, I’d still help you change your tire, whether you’re red, blue, tan or brown.

                  That’s just the sort of person I am.

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                    And that’s great. Ideally there would be more people with that mindset of helping others. As I mentioned this isn’t blind color voting. You either support gay and trans rights, or you support Republicans. You support teachers and the poor, or you support Republicans. Take color out if the equation and take voting at its merits like it should be. It just so happens that all of the worst shit is Republican, so it’s easy to know who to vote for if you have good ideals, which it sounds like you do.

                    If you want to help the most people possible, then it behooves you to vote blue, or do some spot research right before heading to the polls, which will ultimate lead you to the same conclusion.

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                  Are you serious? That’s not a metaphor, that’s a confusing run-on paragraph word salad, possibly AI itself.

                  I still choose peace over picking colored sides of a coin that both lead to war.

                  I just want a nice peaceful job helping fix things for people or businesses that don’t want to see the world burn down.

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                    Getting metaphorically punched in the mouth or metaphorically getting shot in the face. Neither are actual events, they are metaphors used to illustrate that one side is clearly worse than the other. I never said anyone deserves to get shot in the face. What I said that you quoted is that if you do nothing, you are choosing to support the worst option.

                    This isn’t a colored sides thing. It’s bad vs less bad. There is no third choice. If you choose nothing in means you’ve chosen bad because of the way a two party FPtP voting system works.

                    Most of us want peace. One way that you can help is voting for the least bad option, because either the bad or least bad is going to take power. There are obviously many other things you can do to help others like volunteering and donating. The most significant act though is helping prevent awful from being in power, because their actions will outweigh any individual efforts you are capable of.

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        “I don’t want to get hurt” isn’t a choice and I have to assume you’re like six years old if this is seriously the first time you’ve look at the way world politics work.

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          I dunno how world politics work at all.

          I never have, I don’t care to participate in the sport of war, I prefer peace.

          But, what did you just say?

          ‘I don’t want to get hurt isn’t a choice’?

          What the fuck was that, you promoting violence?

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            I dunno how world politics work at all.

            You should probably just stay out of the conversation then and educate yourself.

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              Well thank you too, I’m actually here attempting to learn right now.

              Like, do you really go to vote with the caveman mind of voting for color red/blue? You might as well be voting for tan/brown, same fucking difference, blind voting.