If we can’t be bothered to vote in the primaries, wjy would anyone believe us that a progressive candidate would somehow lure millions more to vote?

As I know the comments will be, uhhh, fun, I’ve turned off reply notifications.

  • FooBarrington@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    We simply know that people are more likely to vote when they are enthusiastic. You can either keep telling people “do better” and keep losing, or you can accept human nature and use it to your advantage by running a candidate that people actually want.

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      People should have been planty enthusiastic to get anyone but Trump as President, but that shows how strong the misinformation machine is.

      Personally I’ve always favored a system like Australia where voting is compulsory and punished with a small fine. That filters out the principled from the merely lazy.

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        18 hours ago

        Yes, but they do that only when they want you to vote. Imagine making it compulsory to vote, and then also suppressing your ability to vote… Then the fine is just a new tax and you still don’t get to vote.

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        No, it simply shows that the Dem strategy of “putting up a turd that doesn’t stink quite as bad as the other one” isn’t enough to actually win when it matters.

        • ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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          We are back to the original point that people are so determined to blame Democrats that they sabotage their own efforts to get something better.

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              22 hours ago

              Why is it Democrats responsibility to get progressives to vote in primaries? If you don’t vote, politicians don’t care about your opinions.

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                21 hours ago

                Let’s not act like the Democratic primary process has been going well for the last elections - look how they treated Bernie, and there wasn’t even a primary for Harris - after she was quite unpopular in the previous primaries!

                That’s not to mention that the Biden campaign before 2020 gave many signals that he’d be a one-term president. They said “we have to rally to defeat Trump”, and then just didn’t care to build up an alternative to Biden since they knew people would have to rally behind whoever they put up, since anyone would be better than Trump!

              • Sharkticon@lemmy.zip
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                22 hours ago

                And if you don’t speak to voters, voters don’t care about politicians. Guess which one matters more?