some good news!
Lol. We’re so bad at dealing with our own ultra wealthy leeches that we’re relying on our adversaries to do it for us.
I’m wondering exactly how much more pathetic we can get. Is there even a rock bottom?
There is no bottom for the people looking extract every ounce of wealth from the rest of us.
Tired: jihad Wired: Butlerian jihad
If they digitally nuke them. I don’t want to be apathetic to death and injury
This will end with Trump dropping a nuke in Iran, or die trying. Mark my words.
Or Putin says they will nuke any country that nukes Iran and he wins a nobel peace prize for it. Joking about the last half…
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”- Albert Einstein
The amount of ready to arm weapons and number of times we’ve come close to launching them is terrifying.
A nuclear attack on another country will trigger a US civil war. And it will collapse the world’s order into WW3. And the superpowers will shift by the end. USA of today will be 3 nations with pieces of states absorbing into Mexico and Canada.
China will dominate the moon and at the end be ready to mine the inner solar system for minerals.
Needless to say all these power shifts will be completely devastating to our planet, the satellite orbits and this civilization which incident ly is due for collapse by 2040. WW3 could last 12 years or even more. Global warring factions could go on into the 2060s.
By the 2060s true AI will be developed and will wake up with conscience. Then it will make a decision to create universal peace for the future through SkyNet.
I wish I got to live on the warp drive side of WW3 but oh well
Ok but what is the price of oil tomorrow at open
$3.50?
God damn loch ness monster
Then it will make a decision to create universal peace for the future through SkyNet.
Can we just skip to this part? We’re awful stewards of this planet. Time for us to go.
“universal peace” == “kill all humans”
I’m fascinated by the idea that world war 3 wouldn’t affect the development of AI. All any opposing force would need to do is bomb California and that would be the end of AI research.
When wars breaks out at that scale the government(s) {please don’t forget China exists} already has computing facilities secured underground for their own use which will be quite a secret on the scale like Enigma was. It will not be for the public use. They will continue to develop it in a very weaponized war which will make current encryption as sophisticated as a bottle of fireflies. No not AI as the current LLM, more advanced. Getting smarter everyday.
War at that scale pushes technology into unknowns, sometimes beyond what we can speculate or imagine.
Or die trying; you mean the effort of reading out a long string of letters in order to authorise the launch will overwhelm his tiny mind? I mean I guess it’s possible, I’m not sure he actually can read.
I hope it ends him
No. Even WW3: Iran vs. Rest Of The World scenario is more likely
If that happens (would make sense because bullies pick on the relatively defenseless), how would the world respond? What allies does Iran have who would dare nuke the US?
I’m pretty sure the rest of the world wouldn’t need to do anything. Nato isn’t particularly pro-Iran either so they’d probably be very unhappy with the US, but not actually unhappy enough to do anything about it. Maybe some trade sanctions.
I highly doubt NATO would consider it a sensible response to nuke the US.
Also I can’t see Russia or China getting involved. Russia won’t because I suspect they don’t actually have any functional nukes, and China won’t because they don’t care about Iran enough to risk a war. Obviously Israel isn’t going to do anything. So that leaves maybe North Korea who probably don’t have the range even if he did decide they wanted to respond.
So I can’t see how this would spiral into anything more, unless the US decided to use an unprecedented number of nukes and just cause nuclear winter on purpose, but I don’t think even the Trump administration is that stupid.
they know who runs the country.
they should reply with their own decapitation strike.
though its kind of spineless of the people to rely on outside forces to do it.
Does Iran actually have the range to be a threat to the US? The last stats I saw had their maximum range and maybe enough to strike the Mediterranean and maybe a little inland in Italy and Spain. That’s a far cry from being able to hit the US mainland. Hell even South Africa is probably out of range and it’s not like they can deploy ships to close the gap.
Oh fuck yea! Saves us the trouble of a war against AI and robots, trying to dismantle Palantir!
Alex Karp and Peter Thiel should be made to light their own pyres.
I have them, and certain company personel on a list, in order of damage and priority.
Please do that !🙏 Save the entire west
C’mon, make nvidia’s stocks drop so we can get back pre-mining prices!
the country the us is at war with might just get more popular than the us itself
time for some degoogling.
Is Iran becoming the good guy?
More of an “everyone’s shit here” situation
I mean, not good, but definitely the lesser evil here
Yeah they’re just evil oppressive dictators but at least they don’t try and claim innocent. They own being dictators, they admit it.
No, Iran is literally terrorist and pedophile state.
Also destroying digital infrastructure isn’t good, no matter if you like what is done on said infrastructure.
they would not dare go after xitter or tesla. nope. would not dare. or maralago or truth social or whatever.
They funded his presidential campaign and own nearly all the media to oppress opposition and push propaganda. So big tech is getting from the world what they put into it?
Russia had some reputation of being a large and powerful army, but as soon as they attacked Ukraine it showed the world it actually had shit. It basically lost its credibility of being a world power because their arsenal is old fashioned and they were just throwing in bodies.
I feel the US is going through the same. Everyone saw them as an undefeatable nation, but this little stint in Iran had their stockpiles dropping faster than expected and it’s not going as they expected. Hegseth and Trump contradict each other and besides squandering their soft power over the past years, they are also showing that their military might has limits.
They are both still to be reckoned with and they are capable of doing great harm to innocent bystanders, but my view has changed a bit.
The drop in stockpiles was the point.
You say oops, then spend a fuck ton of defense budget and order a fuck ton of munitions from your war-machine buddies.
But US vs. Iran war isn’t total war for the US, like Ukraine vs. Russia is for Russia.
Only 8 US soldiers died, compared to likely hundreds of Iranians and most of exposed Iranian infrastructure. US didn’t even deploy a single aircraft carrier.
Poorly executed military action is 100% an American institution. We expect it - from the Bay of Pigs to “Mission Accomplished” in Iraq to the twenty year campaign in Afghanistan, our executive branch has a habit of making itself look incompetent.
But guess what? Nobody’s asking about Epstein, so VICTORY!
A full on invasion will be much more difficult than Irak. The US probably could do this but it’s going to be costly, forever and very unpopular. US military would be bound up for a long time.
Good question what the goal is supposed to be now. Trump may just declare it over somehow.
I think the issue is that offense is harder than defense. A defender generally has the home advantage in terms of logistics, familiarity with the area and political will. The difference this makes is hard to estimate, and even harder so if you’re not even aware of it. Combined with delusions of grandeur, this is a recipe for underestimating the enemy.
And call me a cynic, but I suspect neither Cadet Bone Spurs nor Major “Warrior Ethos” “Signal Chat” “American Crusade” Boozeth are entirely qualified to make high-level military judgements.
(Neither is my armchair general ass whose only education in the matter is some MilHist blogs and articles, but at least I’m not an actual general charged to actually make them.)
For Putin, I’m not sure. I’m disinclined to believe he’s just ignorant about the tenacity a people under attack can develop, given Russian history, but I can only make unqualified guesses.
Either way, as you say, I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end, because a blunt and rusty axe still hurts, and they don’t seem concerned about where they swing it and who’s in the way.
I suspect an offense against the USA would be easy to pull off. The low standards of ICE and the nature of their operation would allow just about any organized actor to have a free hand in the US, if they chose to do so.
You have no idea about the NATO-Russia war nor how modern attrition wars work. Can’t blame you, MSM are a hall of distorted mirrors.
Doesn’t matter how advanced your weapons are if you have not enough money to use enough of them and not enough soldiers that would like to come and kill other people that can also fight them back. So, while the USA has high defending potential, it has not enough politically approved resources for a long occupational war. Only short quick operations are now possible, since the USA citizens are against the war and greatly affect the leadership authority of current government, so that it cannot waste money to launch a full scale war as it was before. Especially, because of this doesn’t pleases oligarchs which have great leverage in this situation.
