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- politics@lemmy.world
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- politics@lemmy.world
The poll indicates support for the more aggressive position Newsom has taken in standing up to Donald Trump, particularly over a plan by Republicans in Texas to redraw their state’s congressional seat map in the hopes of winning more seats in midterm elections next year.
The battle to become the 2028 presidential election candidate will likely set the new direction for the Democratic Party as it struggles with net favorability at what one recent poll showed to be a three-year low. Newsom has not formally announced his candidacy.
The DNC is not a totally different organization. Citation needed. Billionaires and corporations really didn’t want Bernie back then, and they won’t want progressives getting in office in the future.
Until the DNC only accepts money from small donors, and there is campaign finance reform (looking at Citizens United being overturned), it’s naive to believe progressives will ever have a shot.
Their cash flow depends on pleasing their masters, they won’t jeopardize that.
So what you are saying is that Citizen’s United is the reason progressives “don’t have a shot”. Do you know understand the chain of events that led us here? In 2000 (A) progressives voted for Ralph Nader, who (B) threw the election to George Bush, who (C.) appointed several archconservative Supreme Court justices, who (D) established Citizen’s United.
So you rexample of Citizens United as being the thing that fucked us over is AN EXAMPLE OF PROGRESSIVES SHOOTING THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT.
The whole system is broken. If spoiling has been an issue for decades, perhaps we needed election reform a long time ago.
No, instead we only pass blame to people who want progress. Enough.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the DNC is and how it works…
If you weren’t also insisting that you know how it works at the same time, I probably would have stuck around to explain it.
You’re also ignorant of what their fundraising has been like and where it’s coming from since the new chair.
Billionaire large money donations are virtually non-existent, and small donors has skyrocketed.
But again, if you were genuinely asking questions, I’d stick around to answer. Instead you’re just insisting untrue things are reality and demanding I argue with you about it.
Very few people are going to invest the time required for you to understand this, when this is the way you go about it.
If the DNC’s fundraising situation has changed, it’s not due to any policy forbidding billionaires and large donors. The DNC has lost the confidence of their major donors, according to Politico two days ago. They have raised very, very little in comparison to the GOP.
Talking down to me is not evidence that the DNC has changed significantly. When it comes down to it, they need their large donors because they refuse to shift left to compel small donors to fund them.
Even if the DNC is branding itself as friendly to progressives, those progressives will be absolutely crushed when a primary or election occurs. We need campaign finance reform to move forward as a society and to have a semblance of representation and democracy.
Again, I could give less than a fuck about the DNC’s complexity as an organization. It is not nurturing progressives. Evidence is needed to support that assertion. The DNC will be back to taking primarily large donations before long, and so will the candidates that win the primaries (if there is any challenge posed by progressives at all).
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No, you’re literally and completely wrong.
Because that is actively happening right now…
And:
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/18/dnc-fundraising-donor-problems-midterms-00512473
The large donors stopped giving because the DNC pivoted left with Ken Martin.
And small donors are increasing because they approve of the party moving left
You literally don’t know what you’re talking about.
Everything youve said has been out of date, and yet you still keep blindly insisting you know what reality is, when you clearly aren’t aware of what’s happening.
If you don’t want people to “talk down” to you, stop repeating misinformation and listen to the people who actually know what’s happening.
We’ve raised more money that at this point in 2017, without billionaires.
What is so hard to understand here?
Why do you keep consistently insisting that we should ignore reality in favor of your opinions?
They have raised nothing truly significant by their own merit and the billionaires/etc. will be back - they will need their money to win. There is no visible shift left or to socialist policies. Support your assertions, Ken Martin and the DNC have already been arguably very hostile to a leading progressive in the DNC, no matter how you spin it. I provided receipts - the time for the DNC to enforce neutrality would’ve been during the court case where they were called out for rigging the primary against Bernie, not after Hogg got elected as Vice Chair with publicly visible positive intentions and goals. If literally everything has changed in 2 months, enlighten me.
Just because the DNC and Ken Martin are seen as hopeless by large donors now doesn’t represent a significant shift. Americans also don’t see the DNC/Democratic Party very favorably, according to recent polls. If small donors are flocking to the DNC more than they have in the past, it’s because of Trump and what is left of democracy at stake.
Even on Ken’s Wikipedia regarding his position as DNC chair put it this way:
Infighting against progressives is clearly what they are referring to.
You’re asserting he’s garnering more small donations because there is a shift left. I am arguing that it’s because people are more politically active.