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- politics@lemmy.world
The poll indicates support for the more aggressive position Newsom has taken in standing up to Donald Trump, particularly over a plan by Republicans in Texas to redraw their state’s congressional seat map in the hopes of winning more seats in midterm elections next year.
The battle to become the 2028 presidential election candidate will likely set the new direction for the Democratic Party as it struggles with net favorability at what one recent poll showed to be a three-year low. Newsom has not formally announced his candidacy.
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Ugh.
Americans are so fucking dumb oh my god
Not a huge fan but glad to see he’s making waves against MAGA.
Yikes.
Newsom Fetterman 2028. That’s sure to fix things right up.
To everyone complaining: this is the fucking primary. This is when you bring out your leftist candidate that can represent us against literal fascists.
Stop fucking whining and do something about it before it’s too late, Newsom wins the primary, and we all have to listen to you whine for another goddamn decade about how Democrats don’t represent us.
Just tried that in 2016. Debbie Schultz and Hillary decided to quell Bernie fervor, elevated Trump, and secured years of Trump and a fascist devolution. Utterly embarrassing. The Democratic party is not going to stop fascism.
Well let’s fucking make them do it again, in such a way that they can’t fucking make up the deficit. How long are people going to bitch about it and use it as an excuse it’s just not possible? Tides are changing. It’s fucking now or never
Until the Democratic Party just ignores primary results they don’t like.
Or they’re like sinema and change completely after getting in office
I swear US Democrats learn absolutely nothing. All you have to do is jingle some keys in their faces and they’ll applaud.
This is a guy who wants California Cities to force homeless people to move every 3 days. This is a guy who has threatened to cut funding to cities that don’t “crack down” on homeless people.
This is a guy who simply has one of his interns to write funny twitter posts and NOW he’s suddenly “presidential material”.
And some people honestly wonder how Trump was re-elected.
Canadians are so confused as to the reason Americans hate newsom sort of like how Americans were confused why Canadians hated Trudeau.
No. Fuck no. Hell the fuck no. He can keep doing his attack dog shit, that’s fine he IS NOT presidential material. He is not what this conversation ntry needs to fix the shit Republicans have deliberately broken.
Americans finally knowing when to throw the gloves off and dEcOrUm. You guys had Teddy Roosevelt and he was unabashedly unafraid of the vested interests. And even if there was no Teddy, you guys also mobilised to end the first Gilded Age. You can do it again!
It’s unsurprising Newsom is leading, given all the media coverage he’s been given.
Anyway, any poll result now for 2028 is meaningless. A lot’s going to happen between now and then, and non-centrist candidates will probably emerge, and possibly do well.
After reading through the comments here, I’m no longer curious as to how we arrived at where we currently are. We’re an absolute mess! An embarrassingly arrogant and equally ignorant mess.
And while it’s true that our future remains uncertain, after reading through this thread, I’m not sure it’s a good idea that any of us hold on to any length of hope that this disaster will ever right itself again. That is, if it is to be believed that we are a microcosm of a larger collective.
It’s said, that hope is a luxury of those who have a choice. But we had a choice. And what did we do? We slept. We withheld votes in protest. We stayed home. We opted out. However it is presented- We made our choice.
And now here we are. Salivating at the chance to tear one another a new asshole while we marinade in the results of our inability to do the bare minimum to protect a nation’s democracy.
We didn’t just deserve this:
We earned it.
We had a choice between one monster, and another (there were other options, but both monsters fought to keep the non-monsters off the ballot). Sure, one monster was a bigger, meaner monster, but the other monster was still pretty damn evil. Maybe next time we should be allowed to pick someone that isn’t evil, for a change.
It will never cease to amaze me that people blame the voters for being disgusted with the candidates, rather than blaming the parties for choosing such awful candidates.
It will never cease to amaze me how so many people could expect things to change by doing absolutely nothing.
When given a choice between cancer and a broken bone, you pick the broken bone- every time.
But… now we have cancer- and this isn’t up for debate.
Do nothing??? Look at the DSA getting zohran mamdani into position over shoe-in and sex pest cuomo. Organise with others and dont vote newsom
I’ll vote for who I want to vote for, thanks. And for the record, that will be whoever has the best chance to dethrone trump. If that someone happens to be part of the DSA, so be it. I’ll have zero issues casing a vote their way. If it isn’t. I won’t lose sleep over it.
See?
This is the difference between people like you and I. I have no problem voting for whoever is the better candidate of the two- regardless of whether or not they align with my policies ideology. And had more of the people like you subscribed to this theory- we wouldn’t be where we are now.
Unless or course you’re all still touting the belief that Kamala would have been the exact same as Trump.
I have no problem voting for whoever is the better candidate of the two- regardless of whether or not they align with my policies ideology
You do realize the error with this utility calculation, right? A few more years of this style of “pragmatic liberal utilitarianism” will have you voting for a Dem who wants 9 genocides over a republican who wants 10. You’ll find yourself voting for 2036 Dem candidate Ted Cruz as he runs against the republicans’ candidate of Mecha Hitler.
This strategy isn’t sustainable, and what you’ve shown is that there is no number of Palestinian children you wouldnt sacrifice to bide time for your crumbling oligarchy. At some point, we have a moral duty to the victims of our imperialism to simply dismantle our genocidal country.
Who is doing nothing? We’re fighting for change, we are pushing for parties that are fighting for the people. We were litteraly in the streets, when the Democrats were out to brunch, while the Democratic leaders were bombing kids, and backing genocides.
Your analogy is flawed, btw. A more apt analogy would be terminal-cancer, or less-severe-terminal-cancer. So… congratulations on supporting the cancer, instead of helping the people who are suffering from cancer.
Fighting for a change? Who are you fighting? In what manner do you fight? Give me an example of this fight you’re performing.
Because from where is sit, I’m seeing an awful lot of people that think that withholding a vote because of [insert flavor of the week reason] is somehow going to create change. And protests? They only work if those you’re protesting have empathy and shame. Protests don’t create change. VOTES DO.
By the way- this happens every single election year. Take note on all the change you fought for by doing jack shit.
Protests, pushing for 3rd parties and politicians that have a record of actually doing something, funding anti-police and military groups, funding homeless-shelters and health-care for people in need.
By the way- this happens every single election year. Take note on all the change you fought for by doing jack shit.
I find this rich coming from some one who is defending the Democrats.
Speak for your damn self.
If this is the basket the Democrats put their eggs into I sense 8 years of the couch fucker in our futures. Newsome fucking sucks. At best he panders to progressives with one hand while he signs yet another shady bullshit deal behind closed doors like every single other politician alive with his other.
You think it’s just a coincidence that all the money they raised with that benefit concert happened to go into non-profits that his wife runs? You think its been an accident that those effected by the fires haven’t seen a penny from that concert?
California has some of the most corrupt and inept leadership it has ever had. More money than ever is being spent on things like homelessness and public transit projects, but strangely both the public transit and homeless problem have only been getting worse.
Fuck Gavin Newsome.
Newsom is, and always has been, a slimy neoliberal greaseball. Not only does he not pander to progressives, he is the pinnacle of Democratic Party leftward obstructionism. Newsom serves nobody but Newsom. His current act is nothing more than the latest strategy to bolster his Presidential prospects after openly pandering to the far right failed to gain him any ground.
Idk how he would pander to progressives after mostly vetoing progressive laws in California then going on an anti trans kick once Trump won
The DNC will die before it learns a lesson.
FUCKING BRING IN ANOTHER CANDIDATE THEN.
Jesus fuck… Y’all just constantly whine about your options, and when the time comes for the primary, you’ve got NOTHING.
The only one whining is DNC fanboys when we tell them their establishment ghoul is going to lose them the election once again.
Voters will die before they learn the lesson. Beating fascism is more important than getting a candidate who agrees with everything you want.
Yeah, let’s put up another California democrat that’s too centrist to attract progressives and too California to attract middle America, it worked so well last time…
It only makes sense to those who only think hilldog and Harris lost because they were women not because they ran God awful campaigns
Biden ran an embarrassing campaign, but he had a penis so he won.
If progressives dont vote against fascism they arent progressive
A month ago, I would have said the same thing. Right now though, he’s the only candidate I see standing up to Trump
I don’t particularly like his policies, but I want someone either very progressive, or willing to get dirty
The current regime is far too fascist for me to worry about whether someone is progressive enough
It’s almost as if the people who find Republican issues compelling would rather vote for a full Republican than a Republican-lite. Maybe if he curses while doubling down on Zionism he will somehow reach the 3rd rail 🙄
