The survey lasts until April 20. I’m glad transport Canada is looking into it.
Edit: thanks @Quilotoa@lemmy.ca for pointing out that I got the date wrong.
It’s bad and we should match European standards.
The US standards for cars are a cancer and perfectly encapsulate the American “I got mine fuck you” mindset.
European standards
As a European, headlights are way too bright. And modern dashboards too. If your car gave your eyes the chance to adapt to the darkness, we wouldn’t need bajillion lumen headlights.
Every car I’ve owned has had a little potentiometer or “roller” to dim internal and dashboard lights. I have no idea why it’s not common knowledge but I use it every time I have to travel in the dark and it allows me to see outside so much better
As someone who rents a lot of cars, it’s becoming harder and harder to locate
not good enough. Europe allows LED headlights with stupidly high outputs
Only solution is maximum height of lights. Make these massive SUVs and trucks look stupid with the light dragging on a lower bumper.
uh, no. the only solution is instituting an appropriate maximum level of output
height only matters on flat smooth roads
I was referring to trucks and SUVs that are so tall they blind the cars in front of them even if they are pointed appropriately. Their headlights are at the eye level of other drivers in normal cars.
Output level is another matter that also needs attention
I mean by definition they are not pointed appropriately if they’re blinding other people in regular conditions
but I get what you’re saying
The law actually specifies a maximum wattage, which back before all the new technology like LEDs and Xenons actually did limit the brightness… But the laws haven’t been keeping up with technology for quite a while…
There is actually no law in Ontario, nor a federal law for headlight brightness, but even if there was, police would not enforce it.
Neither of these are, in fact, the only solution.
We could, for example, have heights that identify other cars in the road and selectively dim the area around those cars.
We could have headlights that keep light below a certain level accounting for both the attitude of the car and the oncoming terrain.
Really how it is achieved doesn’t matter, the regulation should just say that, within some cone in front of the vehicle, light levels must be limited to below x for the window areas around any other vehicles.
congrats on forgetting that non-drivers coexist with these vehicles
Congratulations on forgetting the justification people are using to restrict light brightness, which is that is blind other drivers dangerously.
I would consider motorbikes and bicycles to fall under that category, but I expected that people understood that I wasn’t going into the minutiae of a hypothetical regulation that I’m not responsible for writing. There are, of course, lots of edge cases that I didn’t include.If you’re making a case for pedestrians, or people indoors, I think that’s gonna need to some more serious justification.
I never understood why bigger cars can have their bulbs at a higher level.
Because fuck the world.
The lights are supposed to be aimed lower, but then dipshits lift the trucks for no good reason and don’t re-aim the lights.
Probably because most of them aren’t even under the same rules as cars: https://www.jalopnik.com/2111008/how-non-passenger-work-vehicle-became-family-car/
Trucks are also exempt from safety standards of cars, and ironically people buy those tanks because they think they are safer.
I actually think it’s mostly an aim issue, the height of these vehicles is also an issue but I think the headlight one could be solved by aim
The problem is the headlights are not regulated for total lumens, and all the light is highly concentrated. Second problem is brodozers illegally lifted causing the lights to be aimed at the wrong angle. OPP or local police don’t enforce the height law of 3", nor the law that says wheels cannot exceed the fender width.
Not just brodozers, I swear headlights are just never adjusted as part of PDI. My grandmothers highlander has them lighting everything from the road to the forest beside the highway to the people in front of the fucking thing to even the driver who looked at the reflective speed limit sign only to have that shit go straight back into their eyeballs.
My car’s headlights are simple halogen bulbs, not LEDs, and I have a manual adjustment dial which I keep quite low. I even adjusted it all myself so it’s good no matter where I put it. It’s just a BRZ so it wasn’t blinding anyone anyway but holy fuck, not that hard.
Biggest issue is the parabolas have a focal length, and while you can get adjustable LEDs to put focus in proper place, nobody bothers, so instead of the parabola projecting it parallel and straight forward/down its a scatter pattern
I have seen supernovas less bright than some car headlights.
A problem I find is that cars are increasingly visible with their brighter and brighter headlights, but that means pedestrians are much harder to see after you’ve been blinded.
The fact that another car is present but I would never say that it makes them more visible. I can’t see the road, can’t see the car producing all the light, can’t see pedestrians like you say, can’t see fuckin’ anything. Never have I had a set of oncoming headlights that drowns out literally all other things in my vision and thought “wow, things are safer now.”
started driving last year and oh my fucking god i cannot believe people regularly drive at night. i literally cant see anything when a truck or suv is approaching. its TERRIFYING.
But I need to see three provinces over for SAFETY, for the CHILDREN.
edit: also fucking bike lights, there is a local idiot who somehow has found a piece of quasar and has strapped it to his handlebars and even on a cloudless summer noon that fucking thing is ON and manages to pierce my retina. I think it’s a mental illness at this point. Both from companies that make these technological anal cancers, and the anencephalic weirdos who buy them.
Now do one about about red animated turn indicators and one about strobing lights on bikes. Fuck all that shit.
Nothing wrong about them being animated, the red is really frustrating we should have amber.
I disagree, depending on the animation. There was this BMW SUV (I’m not really sure which model) driving around here and their turn signal looked nearly indistinguishable from a sunlight reflection. It faded both IN and out, with a slow transition across, and I personally barely could tell it was on unless I was staring directly at it. It doesn’t catch your eye like a turn signal should.
I think animated signals are fine, but there should be some rules to it, like requiring it to flash on, but allowing fade outs or transitions.
I think I’ve seen what you’re talking about. Wouldn’t hurt to have some regulation on the animation. I really like the animation on the current Mazda3 and I think Audi’s been doing a good job with them for a while.
I don’t believe you, everyone knows BMWs don’t have turn signals.
please fill out the survey! it took me 5 mins and theres no sign in or email required.
I’m a Canadian citizen not living in Canada who gets blinded by stupid lights just the same, but apparently they aren’t interested in my opinion.
its to much, i keep thinking people are highbeaming me
Honestly they also might be.
nah cuz when i flash them, then they flash the sun back at me to tell me, “no, my high beam are actaully off” id get fuckin flashbanged, they’ve gotten noticeably brighter recently.
They have a proven technology to fix this issue. The US is kind of late to the game.
They pretty much solve the issue of blinding other drivers.
You know what else solves the issue of blinding other drivers, and doesn’t require the use of finicky and expensive moving parts? Lights that aren’t stupidly bright, and have a gradual fall-off.
I think either way is acceptable. What is not is increasingly bright lights without the technology to prevent them from blinding others.
Technology isn’t always the answer. This adds more cost to the car and more maintenance cost, when the solution is to simply turn down the lights and make sure they are at the correct angle.
It’s also more complicated to operate. Supposedly my car has this feature and I have no idea if it’s working, but maybe I’m misunderstanding the manual.
We have a tendency to add technology and complexity to solve problems, but I’ve always tried to live by the saying “a good engineer knows what to leave out”. Though I do still over engineer things from time to time.
I’m in Washington state and dude, every year they get brighter and brighter. It has to stop. We need a vehicular headlights standard communication system… You see my lights, I see your lights so we both dimm automatically. Or maybe the headlights have a side light that turns off. So if your headlight sees the light from a different car then your lights point elsewhere or the LED goes dim just for that side. Or maybe the lights synchronize and every driver wears glasses that synchronize to their light. Each car communicates the synchronization frequency. A device then polarizes the lenses of each driver such that they only see their own reflected light. Or maybe each light is on for a certain period of milliseconds at a time and the glasses then become dark when the other car’s lights are on for a few milliseconds.
Just limit the light levels and require a gradual fall-off instead of the harsh line of projector headlights that blind everyone when you go over a bump. We don’t need more finicky systems that make cars more expensive and increase repair costs.
Let’s do vehicle size first, if we are starting to retalk about standards.
Is it possible to make them into signal lights? Then nobody would use them. /s
