• EndOfLine@lemmy.world
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    This viewpoint is flawed and dangerously naive.

    The damage is not as superficial as a name or a building. The USA allowed this to happen. The checks and balances that were supposed to be built into the system have failed. The United States of America, it’s government, and it’s whole social structure is no longer reliable. It does not end with the removal from power or even the death of Trump.

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      In 2016 the world got to know Donald Trump. In 2024 the world got to know the American people.

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        In 2024 the first world got to know the American people.

        FTFY. Places that had to live with the consequences of US bombs and CIA regime change already knew what the American people were like.

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          The thing that the whole word has learned is that there’s NO limit to what the American people will shrug off and do nothing about, whether they like it or not. None whatsoever.

          You’re right that others have previously found themselves on the wrong side of that, apparently nonexistent, limit, and already learned that their lives didn’t matter a bit to any Americans. But the attack on Venezuela and economic war against Cuba – formally unsanctiones acts of wanton destruction, carried out for the lulz in the name of all Americans – were very much not believed to be in the cards, even by those countries.

          Earlier this year, Denmark – fucking DENMARK – a vassal state of ~5 million people – prepared for a fight with the US to the point of sending blood bags to Greenland. But the very idea of that doesn’t even give Americans pause, Trump voters or not.

          At least people in Nazi Germany feigned ignorance, Americans straight up don’t give a fuck.

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            Greenland might be an anomaly to US but Venezuela, Cuba, Iran is par for the course for US. A war monger will war monger no matter the leadership not the consequences. Europe will still be the vassal at least the leadership, the populace will forget it the moment the new iphone launches.

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          the first world

          Places that had to live with the consequences of US bombs and CIA regime change

          Aside from one or two exceptions there is no overlap between these two groups

          Edit: nvm, i did read ftfy but not the comment you responded to and believed you quoted the original comment.

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      Flawed? It’s schizophrenic and a sign that there is no hope to be found in the US people.

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      the checks and balances are working pretty well but there’s obviously not enough wrt the president

      the DOJ, CDC and other departments going back to normal will do an enormous amount for the country

      that and a nuremburg trials for trump and all of the others. laws will have to be changed and be applied retroactively

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        You’re fucking dreaming, bud.

        The checks and balances have failed. He owns the supreme court. They’ve already handed him victories against hard fought progress that America worked for decades to get.

        The religious nut cases are in charge. They’ve already own the media and they’re taking the internet. They are coming to take away your computer and make you pay to talk to their AI machine. You don’t own anything anymore, it’s all rented, it’s all locked down from being repaired. They want to jail nonconformists. They’re a demonizing food safety and vaccine practices, and motherfuckers are buying it.

        The climate is changing and they know it and they refuse to stop doing the things they are doing in order to try and stop it. Instead, they stock up on oil and bombs so they can invade territory they know will be available to try and grow food. And notherfuckers are cheering it on.

        Why’s the US want Canada? why’s the US want Greenland? Because in 50 years, in 30 years…in 20 years? It’ll be the fucking bread basket. And motherfuckers don’t even realize why they the cheering it on.

        Why’s the US want Venezuela? Why’s the US want Iran? Because we need oil all our machines run on oil and we can’t power our wars and our oppression without them. And motherfuckers love their “Hemi’s” and they’re cheering it on.

        Why’s the US pushing so hard for AI? Why’s the US pushing so hard for online ID verification? They want to track us all. Make us confirm like good little brainwashed Godly worker bees. Find and root out the “rot” of dissent, and motherfuckers are cheering them on.

        This doesn’t go all away with Gavin Newsom.

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        The most important check is that congress and SCOTUS wields their power against the president. They are not supposed to be sharing power right now and encouraging each other to break the constitution.

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        There’s obviously not enough WRT the Supreme Court or Congress, either.

        Whoops, that’s all three branches.